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Old 05-17-2013, 04:01 PM
 
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Yeppers 1867; that's when Martians came down and dropped Canada off into that empty void with no printed name on it the U.S. had previously tried and failed to invade.

Everyone is calling it Canada because before 1867 it had previously been called Upper and Lower Canada but nevertheless, still Canada.

So if one desired to describe that land mass immediately to the north of the U.S. that the U.S. tried to invade prior to 1867, what would one more accurately call it for future reference.
Well, for what it's worth, before there was an Upper and Lower Canada, the land mass now known as Canada was simply referred to as 'British North America'.
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Old 05-17-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Well, for what it's worth, before there was an Upper and Lower Canada, the land mass now known as Canada was simply referred to as 'British North America'.
Actually........






My french is pretty rusty, but as far as I can tell, it says "Map of Canada or New France"

This one says "Part of Canada or the New France"

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Old 06-02-2013, 02:31 AM
 
Location: Boise
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I think the "step child" feeling australia or canada might feel towards the UK is what fueled the american revolution in the first place.. you have to remember.. the american colonies were established as permanent settlements LONG before canada and australia.. we were seen as a cash cow to the empire.. shut up and keep sending that tobacco, cotton, and spices...with ZERO representation in parliament back in london. So imagine being called a british citizen, but not really being treated as one..obviously the population was split with loyalists as well. Come 19th century and at least you were given the option to form your own nation by a vote...American colonies were not given that option in the 18th century...It's turned out for the best though.. and I really think that the bloody american revolution helped in softening views on the colonies britain did still have.. allowing for your more graceful independence...the whole commonwealth thing is a loose string that indeed is of an era gone by..but many older people in Australia tend to be more in favor of the monarchy vs forming an independent republic..perhaps things will change soon.. 1901 is only a couple of generations back.. and time changes everything even sentiments.. I couldn't fathom the idea of calling someone queen or king.. or even a head of state and they only step foot in the country once every 10 years.. I'd be like.. that b**ch needs to go...but I'm american so that makes me bias i suppose.. nevertheless Australia is a great country with a bright future and no matter what.. share a common ancestry with all of us english speaking nations...that makes us all family right?
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Old 06-02-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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I think the "step child" feeling australia or canada might feel towards the UK is what fueled the american revolution in the first place.. you have to remember.. the american colonies were established as permanent settlements LONG before canada and australia.. we were seen as a cash cow to the empire.. shut up and keep sending that tobacco, cotton, and spices...with ZERO representation in parliament back in london. So imagine being called a british citizen, but not really being treated as one..obviously the population was split with loyalists as well. Come 19th century and at least you were given the option to form your own nation by a vote...American colonies were not given that option in the 18th century...It's turned out for the best though.. and I really think that the bloody american revolution helped in softening views on the colonies britain did still have.. allowing for your more graceful independence...the whole commonwealth thing is a loose string that indeed is of an era gone by..but many older people in Australia tend to be more in favor of the monarchy vs forming an independent republic..perhaps things will change soon.. 1901 is only a couple of generations back.. and time changes everything even sentiments.. I couldn't fathom the idea of calling someone queen or king.. or even a head of state and they only step foot in the country once every 10 years.. I'd be like.. that b**ch needs to go...but I'm american so that makes me bias i suppose.. nevertheless Australia is a great country with a bright future and no matter what.. share a common ancestry with all of us english speaking nations...that makes us all family right?
And who is that I see on the news in Arlington giving a proper salute not looking like he is waving to some tart on the footpath, why it's Prince Harry.
For a country biased against the monarchy you are rather confused, why invite members of our Royal family to the USA ?
You want Australia to drop democracy and take up the USA system where the ideal of one person one vote of equal value does not apply .
So how many more members of the Bush royal family will you put in the white house ?
Family, hmm, do you believe there is more Americans with British extraction than those with a German background ? and no Germans are not Anglo-Saxons.
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Old 06-03-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Boise
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And who is that I see on the news in Arlington giving a proper salute not looking like he is waving to some tart on the footpath, why it's Prince Harry.
For a country biased against the monarchy you are rather confused, why invite members of our Royal family to the USA ?
You want Australia to drop democracy and take up the USA system where the ideal of one person one vote of equal value does not apply .
So how many more members of the Bush royal family will you put in the white house ?
Family, hmm, do you believe there is more Americans with British extraction than those with a German background ? and no Germans are not Anglo-Saxons.
I've never said australia or canada or anyone should adopt anything..
as for inviting your royal family to the US.. well they are your head of state aren't they? head's of state visit other nations and other nations welcome them especially if you consider them your friend? I think you've misunderstood my post...
you're sounding like a bitter betty... just saying
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:14 AM
 
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I think the "step child" feeling australia or canada might feel towards the UK is what fueled the american revolution in the first place.. you have to remember.. the american colonies were established as permanent settlements LONG before canada and australia.. we were seen as a cash cow to the empire.. shut up and keep sending that tobacco, cotton, and spices...with ZERO representation in parliament back in london. So imagine being called a british citizen, but not really being treated as one..obviously the population was split with loyalists as well. Come 19th century and at least you were given the option to form your own nation by a vote...American colonies were not given that option in the 18th century...It's turned out for the best though.. and I really think that the bloody american revolution helped in softening views on the colonies britain did still have.. allowing for your more graceful independence...the whole commonwealth thing is a loose string that indeed is of an era gone by..but many older people in Australia tend to be more in favor of the monarchy vs forming an independent republic..perhaps things will change soon.. 1901 is only a couple of generations back.. and time changes everything even sentiments.. I couldn't fathom the idea of calling someone queen or king.. or even a head of state and they only step foot in the country once every 10 years.. I'd be like.. that b**ch needs to go...but I'm american so that makes me bias i suppose.. nevertheless Australia is a great country with a bright future and no matter what.. share a common ancestry with all of us english speaking nations...that makes us all family right?
I think your analysis is pretty much correct. For example, the British reaction to the Eureka stockade, both the rebellion itself and the widespread public support for it at the time, was surely influenced by their experience in North America.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:14 PM
 
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The USA and Australia are very close allies and friends and this is great for both of them.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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Americas closest allies rank.
1. Canada
2. UK
3. Israel
4. South Korea
5. Japan
6. Australia
7. New Zealand
8. France
9. Germany
10. Spain
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Americas closest allies rank.
1. Canada
2. UK
3. Israel
4. South Korea
5. Japan
6. Australia
7. New Zealand
8. France
9. Germany
10. Spain
You left out "in my opinion".
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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Americas closest allies rank.
1. Canada
2. UK
3. Israel
4. South Korea
5. Japan
6. Australia
7. New Zealand
8. France
9. Germany
10. Spain
I'd read up on the history of the ANZUS alliance before placing NZ at 7, particularly the events of the 1980s that saw that country "ejected" from the arrangements. See here: http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/amy...alinac_fpa.pdf

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