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Old 02-05-2014, 05:10 AM
 
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As an Australian myself, I am amazed that other Australians have the audacity to complain about our winters.

We don't even manage to get below 10 degrees sometimes, while other countries deal with day after day of -8 in winter, buried in 3 feet of snow, while some nights manage to get to -17! We have it pretty damn mild, yet I always hear from people who whinge about the so-called "cold". How about a better choice of words? "It's so mild today, or it's not very warm today" would be more suited to our climate. Even Melbourne, which has a reputation for being a very grey and "cold" city, has only ever reached a low of -2. Just measly. Compare that to the low of -33 in Chicago... what are we whinging about?

I also can't believe some Australians run their heater non stop in the winter months. Don't you feel guilty, considering it's generally still double figures outside? Where I live, we are lucky if we ever get anything below 14 degrees.

On top of all of this, I'd rather a proper snowy winter. The heat waves that Australia has experienced this summer and the constant days above 35 degrees have made me wish even more for a colder than average winter. Unfortunately we have to resort to the Alpine regions to get that in this country.
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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It's all relative to what you get accustomed to I think. Even my wife who grew up in Seoul continually complains about Brisbane's "cold" winters these days.

Having been in Seoul living in mostly sub zero temperatures for a couple of months now. I would possibly consider 10 degrees to be shirt and shorts weather.
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Old 02-05-2014, 05:37 AM
 
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It's all relative, right?

It's been my own observation over the years that most people are always under-dressed for whatever the "cold" is where they live . . . and I think that has a lot to do with people spending a lot of time indoors and just running from heated space to heated space without dressing for it.

I've heard people in Brisbane complain about the cold . . . well, yeah, of course you're cold, It's July and you're wearing shorts, thongs and a t-shirt with the sleeves cut off. (btw - people from Florida and Southern California also do this)

Back home I'd hear people complain about the cold but then they didn't have a hat or a scarf and were wearing a pair of thin material pants with no layer on underneath.

To be fair, it does get chilly at night in Brisbane and I used the heat quite a few times over the winter but that's largely because of how the houses are built but because it's brutally cold out.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:08 AM
 
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Speaking of winter we haven't had a winter day at least over 2 years in Sydney.

The Winter of 2013 was a major joke. As the weather was very warm and it felt like spring. And spring was pretty much a summer heat wave LOL.

I really do miss winter. I remember back a few yrs ago. Maybe 6-9yrs ago we used to get some chilly (not cold weather) at night. But the winters of the past few yrs cannot even be considered mild..
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Speaking of winter we haven't had a winter day at least over 2 years in Sydney.

The Winter of 2013 was a major joke. As the weather was very warm and it felt like spring. And spring was pretty much a summer heat wave LOL.

I really do miss winter. I remember back a few yrs ago. Maybe 6-9yrs ago we used to get some chilly (not cold weather) at night. But the winters of the past few yrs cannot even be considered mild..
We haven't had a winter day in over 2 years? Oh I thought you lived in California.........the greatest place on Earth....
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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It is what you get used too....I take my kids to Oz in the winter (summer here USA) My sisters berate me because I don't have them all wrapped up-I even let them swim in the various rock pools -the water is still warmer than summer temps in Maine-winter in Australia is so mild compared to Boston and even Texas. Having lived in Texas now for a couple of years I forget how truly cold Boston gets and its a real shock when I visit up there now. When they tell you exposed skin will be subject to frostbite in 15 mins you know its cold
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:45 AM
 
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As an Australian myself, I am amazed that other Australians have the audacity to complain about our winters.

We don't even manage to get below 10 degrees sometimes, while other countries deal with day after day of -8 in winter, buried in 3 feet of snow, while some nights manage to get to -17! We have it pretty damn mild, yet I always hear from people who whinge about the so-called "cold". How about a better choice of words? "It's so mild today, or it's not very warm today" would be more suited to our climate. Even Melbourne, which has a reputation for being a very grey and "cold" city, has only ever reached a low of -2. Just measly. Compare that to the low of -33 in Chicago... what are we whinging about?

I also can't believe some Australians run their heater non stop in the winter months. Don't you feel guilty, considering it's generally still double figures outside? Where I live, we are lucky if we ever get anything below 14 degrees.

On top of all of this, I'd rather a proper snowy winter. The heat waves that Australia has experienced this summer and the constant days above 35 degrees have made me wish even more for a colder than average winter. Unfortunately we have to resort to the Alpine regions to get that in this country.
What about Australians who complain about the heat, there are countries where it's constantly above 30 degrees with high humidity.

As others have said it's all relative and Australians, well at least those who aren't from Melbourne , are used to mild winters, once it gets a little more than mild it's kind unbearable.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:53 PM
 
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Poor insulation in older homes could be factor

I once was at a coffee shop in Adelaide with 4 ex Torontonians.. All complaining.. So its not just Aussies. You know its cold when Canadians whinge.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yeah too right haha. Even Melbourne's winters, which we think of as so terrible, are so mild by world standards. In the US they'd be considered among the mildest, similar to Austin, or Charleston, or SF. I have no problems with Perth winter temperatures, in fact at times it feels rather warm. Sunny days where it's 20C+ are fairly common these days. I often go around with a single layer. I think it's just because our climate is so mild so people don't know what real cold is. I remember after I came back from New Zealand (south island) where I'd experienced my first real cold, and after coming back to a Perth winter the latter felt tropical! I almost felt like taking my shirt off.

As for dress, people here tend to OVER-dress for how cold it is. In winter it's kinda funny seeing some folk with thick coats, haha. Then again in Vietnam when it's below 25C you'll see the jackets come out lol.

I've never felt the need for indoor heating in Perth, although Bridgetown is a different story, especially in my poorly insulated house. You'd see your breath at like 6pm, and there'd be a lot of condensation on the inner walls. I had a bottle of olive oil that said 'may turn cloudy below 7C.' Well one morning it wasn't just cloudy it was a solid opaque block! First week there it got down to -5C, I think just about a record, scraped/washed a thick layer of ice off my car.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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It's all relative to what you get accustomed to I think. Even my wife who grew up in Seoul continually complains about Brisbane's "cold" winters these days.

Having been in Seoul living in mostly sub zero temperatures for a couple of months now. I would possibly consider 10 degrees to be shirt and shorts weather.
Yeah there were some people from Japan who were complaining about the cold here. I wasn't cold at all, and they're complaining about it. Also my Canadian friend too.
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