Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Simon Michael Abney-Hastings, 15th Earl of Loudoun (born in 1974) , whose father was the subject of Britain's Real Monarch—a documentary broadcast on Channel 4 in the United Kingdom in 2004 should have been invited to the funeral of his great uncle, 16 times removed, King Richard III.
Simon lives in Wangaratta, Victoria, a cathedral city of over 17,000 people in the northeast of Victoria, Australia, approximately 230 km (140 mi) from Melbourne along the Hume Highway.
He has the distinction of being the descendant of William the Conqueror who would be monarch if you strictly follow the traditional laws of succession and ignore any illegitimate births. The laws being the line goes to the sons in order of birth, and on to daughters in order of birth, and always pass to the next generation if one exists.
Simon is the descendant of George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence (21 October 1449 – 18 February 1478) who was the brother of English Kings Edward IV and Richard III. He was convicted of treason against his brother, Edward IV, and was executed (allegedly by being drowned in a butt of Malmsey wine). He appears as a character in William Shakespeare's plays Henry VI, part 3 and Richard III, in which his death is attributed to the machinations of Richard. As there is strong evidence that Edward IV was illegitimate, the line should have passed though George Plantagenet's children instead of Edward's.
The Tudor's were very wary of this blood claim, and both Henry VII and Henry VIII murdered people in the line of succession. Elizabeth I did not murder anyone, but she kept them very close as a threat to her. When she was ill with Smallpox, the country considered restoring the Plantagenet line if she died. When the crown passed to King James of Scotland the Plantagenet claim slowly vanished into history. Simon has no wealth today, only his Scottish title as Earl of Loudon, and his friends who call him King Simon periodically. Loudon county in VA is the home of Dulles airport (one of 30 FAA large hub airports).
I got a kick out of the news saying that Bernard Cumberbatch, who read the oration on the funeral for Richard III, was a distant relative of Richard III.
Some scientists have estimated that any person of English descent in the UK, USA, Canada, Australia or New Zealand has less than 1 in 10,000 odds of NOT being descended from Richard III.
France in contrast had 5 million people before the birth of Jesus, while England only reached 5 million in the 17th century. The English people are very closely related, and almost everyone is a at least a 20th cousin or closer.
I got a kick out of the news saying that Bernard Cumberbatch, who read the oration on the funeral for Richard III, was a distant relative of Richard III.
Some scientists have estimated that any person of English descent in the UK, USA, Canada, Australia or New Zealand has less than 1 in 10,000 odds of NOT being descended from Richard III.
France in contrast had 5 million people before the birth of Jesus, while England only reached 5 million in the 17th century. The English people are very closely related, and almost everyone is a at least a 20th cousin or closer.
How could anyone be descended from Richard III when he had no known grandchildren? He had two acknowledged illegitimate children who left no children, at least none that were known (and a king's grandchildren would have had had a better chance of being known) and his heir Edward was only 10 or so when he died.
I assume that there are a lot more descendants of Richard III's siblings.
Edward III had at least 12 children, 6 of which produced 30 grandchildren.
You could argue that Edward III's stablemaster might have just as many descendants today, but the stablemaster probably didn't have as many children survive, in particular from the plague. Edward only lost one daughter, Joan, his third child and second daughter.
When only thirteen she was sent to Spain to marry Pedro, son and heir of King Alphonso of Castile. There was to be a spectacular ceremony of welcome in the frontier city of Bayonne when she arrived in a triumphal procession. However, on 2 September 1348, tragedy struck; she was suddenly taken ill at Bordeaux and died within hours, an early victim of the plague that was to bring death to thousands in Europe. She was buried in the Cathedral of Bayonne.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.