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Old 06-20-2016, 11:28 PM
 
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I'm not so much directing this at asylum seekers and so forth but rather the Investor type immigrants and to some extent, the international students (mainly Asian).


There just seems like a boatload of the international students who seem to come to Australia, finish their studies and apply for permanent residence here.
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:34 AM
 
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I'm not so much directing this at asylum seekers and so forth but rather the Investor type immigrants and to some extent, the international students (mainly Asian).


There just seems like a boatload of the international students who seem to come to Australia, finish their studies and apply for permanent residence here.
Well, the universities sure like the full fee paying students. If they have studied here, and can find a job I don't see the problem.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:35 AM
 
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But wouldn't they need an offer of full-time employment after graduation to apply for permanent residence?
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Old 06-21-2016, 02:31 AM
 
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But wouldn't they need an offer of full-time employment after graduation to apply for permanent residence?
Yep and the rules also state that Australian,s are supposed to get first preferences. My wife was initially knocked back by QLD health because she was not Australian.

A lot of students have to re enroll in other basic courses, to stay in Australia while looking for a full time job.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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Well, the universities sure like the full fee paying students. If they have studied here, and can find a job I don't see the problem.
That's because universities have become visa factories. The real question is whether they are adding value to the country or just luring international students with a pathway to permanent residency in order to line their own pockets.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:11 PM
 
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That's because universities have become visa factories. The real question is whether they are adding value to the country or just luring international students with a pathway to permanent residency in order to line their own pockets.
From what I have figured out they've just become a degree printing factory and luring and enticing students, rightly or wrongly into Australia with a view that they can become residents here after study.


Australia becomes an attractive option especially for the China and SE Asian market due to the proximity factor, it's much cheaper and easier to be admitted than the UK, US or Canada and thirdly the weather is much more pleasant than said countries.
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Old 06-24-2016, 01:02 AM
 
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From what I have figured out they've just become a degree printing factory and luring and enticing students, rightly or wrongly into Australia with a view that they can become residents here after study.
You have a lot of students but how many of them can actually stay. The path to permanent residency through a student visa is still hard in Australia.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:00 AM
 
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That's because universities have become visa factories. The real question is whether they are adding value to the country or just luring international students with a pathway to permanent residency in order to line their own pockets.

All feeds into the Ponzi scheme that Australia has become. None of it good for Australians and residents already living here.


Australia these days consists of...


Property sales to non residents.


Education to non residents


Non resident tourism.


Some way to make a buck.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:03 AM
 
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You have a lot of students but how many of them can actually stay. The path to permanent residency through a student visa is still hard in Australia.
Not so hard as it is a selling point and somewhat hidden to a degree. Of course many students are happy to return to own countries where they are pretty much guaranteed a better life. I know a number that have returned after a few years in the Aussie work force , somewhat disillusioned with what they found.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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From what I have figured out they've just become a degree printing factory and luring and enticing students, rightly or wrongly into Australia with a view that they can become residents here after study.


Australia becomes an attractive option especially for the China and SE Asian market due to the proximity factor, it's much cheaper and easier to be admitted than the UK, US or Canada and thirdly the weather is much more pleasant than said countries.
It's a very competitive industry and swings and roundabouts. Some don't consider Australian education to be that high and prefer UK or USA . It is hardly cheap to be a student in Australia, but the weather would suit better and comparative closeness to home.
An increasing Asian population would likely provide a degree of comfort with food accessibility and the like.
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