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Old 02-10-2017, 04:44 AM
 
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Anglicanism is basically the Church of England in Australia, and by far the largest Protestant group.
Of course it is a Protestant religion, but it is mainly high church and Anglo-Catholic in nature in Australia.
The Uniting Church would be the next most popular Protestant denomination, which was a merger between Presbyterian and Methodist.
Low church evangelicals and fundamentalists are low in number here, certainly compared to the US.
Orthodox would come under "other Christian denomination" in Australia, and would be quite high here with Greek and Serbian populations etc.
Catholicism is about 25-30% of the population, with also many Italian, Croatian, Filipino and even Lebanese catholics contributing to that.
Australia is thus largely conservative in it's Christianity here, but quite different to Britain.
NZ is a much more Protestant country, as are many of the Pacific Islands.
You're right in saying that our Christianity is quite conservative relative to the UK, Canada and NZ. NZ appears to be quite a bit less religious overall than Australia as well. The US-style evangelical/Pentecostal churches aren't hugely influential here but they are growing rapidly, particularly in Sydney.
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Old 02-11-2017, 03:37 AM
 
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You're right in saying that our Christianity is quite conservative relative to the UK, Canada and NZ. NZ appears to be quite a bit less religious overall than Australia as well. The US-style evangelical/Pentecostal churches aren't hugely influential here but they are growing rapidly, particularly in Sydney.
New Zealand also has US-Style evangelical/pentecostal churches and I been to one there, and it appears to have been growing. Even Jehovia Witnesses are growing there too. But there been a big decline in Christianity there, just like Australia. For the mainline Protestant churches, only the Asian ones are growing in those countries. In the Catholic churches, it is the Asian immigration from places such as the Phillipines and Vietnam that has reduced the decline of the Catholic church.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:03 PM
 
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Well hold on a minute, I'm British, 2nd generation Colombian. We South Americans (heritage) number half a million in the UK and are seldom represented in Aus and NZ, whereas in the UK Colombians have been represented since the 70's, Chucho Merchan in the iconic 70's band the Eurythmics being one example.
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According to UN estimates the UK Immigrant Latin American Community only number 155,725 only 0.24% of the UK population. In Australia that number is 131,121 0.56% of the Australian population. Colombians number only 28,000 in the UK. Over half a million in the UK is still less than 1% of the population. Australia's Latino immigrant community already number nearly 0.6% so the number of Aussies with Latino heritage is already looking higher than in the UK.
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Old 02-22-2019, 09:04 PM
 
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If you look at it Ethnically, Linguistically and by Birthplace, Australia is more diverse.

Iím sourcing the UKís info on Ethnicity and Main Language from the 2011 Census as unfortunately the UK Census only runs every 10 years. Birthplace statistics are from 2015 UN Estimates. All of Australiaís statistics are sourced from the 2016 Census.

TOP 10 LANGUAGES SPOKEN AS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION
UK (England & Wales)
English - 92.3
Polish - 1
Punjabi - 0.5
Urdu - 0.5
Bengali - 0.4
Gujurati - 0.4
Arabic - 0.3
French - 0.3
Chinese - 0.3
Portuguese - 0.2
Spanish - 0.2

Australia
English - 72.7
Mandarin - 2.5
Arabic - 1.4
Cantonese - 1.2
Vietnamese - 1.2
Italian - 1.2
Greek - 1
Tagalog - 0.8
Hindi - 0.7
Spanish - 0.6
Punjabi - 0.6

English is the main Mother tongue of 92% of England and Wales. This figure is 73% in Australia. Foreign languages are far more prominent and common in Australia than they are in the UK.
Another answer here stated that in London you can hear 10 languages spoken in a day. While that could be true a lot of those languages could simply be from Tourists due to Londonís sheer popularity. When it comes down to the resident population Australia wins.

BIRTHPLACE BY REGION
UK (TOTAL - 13)
South Asia - 2.69
East/Southeast Asia - 1.16
Middle East/North Africa - 0.95
Sub-Saharan Africa - 2.06
Latin America - 0.24
North America/Caribbean - 0.87
Oceania - 0.33
Europe - 4.7

AUSTRALIA (TOTAL - 28.3)
South Asia - 3.12
East/Southeast Asia - 7.1
Middle East/North Africa - 1.71
Sub-Saharan Africa - 1.46
Latin America - 0.56
North America/Caribbean - 0.57
Oceania - 2.81
Europe - 10.96

Australiaís foreign born make up 28% of the population, one of the highest in the OECD. The UKís only make up 13%. Those from Sub-Saharan Africa, North America and the Caribbean make up a higher portion in the UK. Immigrants from South Asia, East Asia, the Middle East, South America, Oceania and Europe are all higher in Australia.

ETHNICITY
Hereís where things get complicated. Data from the UK is obtainable but it is from 2011. Australia does not record statistics on race or ethnicity but ancestry. Iíve already collected and added Australiaís ancestral data into racial groups but itís 5 years after the UK Census.
Contrary to popular opinion Australia does have an African community numbering around 155,000. Whilst this isnít as large as Britainís thriving African population it is still a substantial number. Australia has a very large Pacific Islander community of over 350,000 which would probably number only a few hundred or a couple thousand in the UK, almost non existent.
Sub Groups are in italics.

UK
White - 87.1
Asian - 6.9
South Asian - 5.6
East/SE Asian - 1.3
Black - 3
Mixed - 2
Other - 1
Arab - 0.4

AUSTRALIA
White - 76.7
Southern European - 9.3
Eastern European - 2.2
Asian - 14.6
South Asian - 4.6
East/SE Asian - 10
Middle Eastern/North African - 3.1
Maori/Pacific Islander - 1.5
Black - 0.7
Latin American - 0.6
Aboriginal & Torres Strait - 2.8

As I stated this is the UK in 2011 and Australia in 2016 however I donít think the UK has changed that drastically in 5 years to match Australiaís diversity. Both are multicultural in their own ways. The UK has diversity in raw numbers but as a percentage of population itís definitely Australia.
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Old 02-22-2019, 10:09 PM
 
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According to UN estimates the UK Immigrant Latin American Community only number 155,725 only 0.24% of the UK population. In Australia that number is 131,121 0.56% of the Australian population. Colombians number only 28,000 in the UK. Over half a million in the UK is still less than 1% of the population. Australia's Latino immigrant community already number nearly 0.6% so the number of Aussies with Latino heritage is already looking higher than in the UK.
Not sure just where you get Latin American figures as being so high in Australia. The top ranked Latin American country, in Australian population terms, is Brazil.


27,625 Brazilian born were living in Australia at last census. Saying that the population did experience a rapid growth over the five year period, between 2011 and 16. (some 13,000+)


While Colombians, may number only 28,000 in UK , they are far fewer in Australia. The Colombian population at 2016 census, was 18,985. They also made up the second biggest Latino community.


Next followed Argentines at 13,356 with El Salvador a way behind at 9,560.


A growing, but hardly substantial in number population. I suspect more Latin's in London alone than the whole of Australia, especially if not PR included, although the Brazilian influx with smaller numbers of Colombians over recent years to study, may have put paid to that.


I lived in Bayswater in London (W2)way back in late eighties, often referred back then , as Brazil water, owing to the large number of Brazilians residing in the area.


Why not consult census figures, rather than UN estimates?
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Old 02-22-2019, 10:47 PM
 
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Not sure just where you get Latin American figures as being so high in Australia. The top ranked Latin American country, in Australian population terms, is Brazil.


27,625 Brazilian born were living in Australia at last census. Saying that the population did experience a rapid growth over the five year period, between 2011 and 16. (some 13,000+)


While Colombians, may number only 28,000 in UK , they are far fewer in Australia. The Colombian population at 2016 census, was 18,985. They also made up the second biggest Latino community.


Next followed Argentines at 13,356 with El Salvador a way behind at 9,560.


A growing, but hardly substantial in number population. I suspect more Latin's in London alone than the whole of Australia, especially if not PR included, although the Brazilian influx with smaller numbers of Colombians over recent years to study, may have put paid to that.


I lived in Bayswater in London (W2)way back in late eighties, often referred back then , as Brazil water, owing to the large number of Brazilians residing in the area.


Why not consult census figures, rather than UN estimates?
According to the 2016 Census the Latin Community in Australia number 131,121 in total. The most recent estimate for 2017/2018 from the ABS is 170,410. I highly doubt the UK's Latin Community beats that on a percentage basis. 27,000 Colombians in a Nation of 65 million is still incredibly low.

According to the most recent ONS update from 2017/18 Brazilians make up the largest Latin group in the UK at 79,000 with Colombians in second at 35,000. Compare this with ABS estimate in Australia with Brazilians at 40,000 Chileans at 32,000 and Colombians at 26,000. Taking account the population of the two countries the Latin Community in Australia already looks to make up a larger portion of the Aussie population than they do in the UK.

ABS Statistics

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...andnationality
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Old 02-23-2019, 02:02 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Not sure just where you get Latin American figures as being so high in Australia. The top ranked Latin American country, in Australian population terms, is Brazil.


27,625 Brazilian born were living in Australia at last census. Saying that the population did experience a rapid growth over the five year period, between 2011 and 16. (some 13,000+)


While Colombians, may number only 28,000 in UK , they are far fewer in Australia. The Colombian population at 2016 census, was 18,985. They also made up the second biggest Latino community.


Next followed Argentines at 13,356 with El Salvador a way behind at 9,560.


A growing, but hardly substantial in number population. I suspect more Latin's in London alone than the whole of Australia, especially if not PR included, although the Brazilian influx with smaller numbers of Colombians over recent years to study, may have put paid to that.


I lived in Bayswater in London (W2)way back in late eighties, often referred back then , as Brazil water, owing to the large number of Brazilians residing in the area.


Why not consult census figures, rather than UN estimates?
In the last census 140,000 Aussies reported speaking spanish at home and 50,000 spoke Portuguese. and i dont think many of them are from spain and Portugal.
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Old 02-23-2019, 03:24 AM
 
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According to the 2016 Census the Latin Community in Australia number 131,121 in total. The most recent estimate for 2017/2018 from the ABS is 170,410. I highly doubt the UK's Latin Community beats that on a percentage basis. 27,000 Colombians in a Nation of 65 million is still incredibly low.

According to the most recent ONS update from 2017/18 Brazilians make up the largest Latin group in the UK at 79,000 with Colombians in second at 35,000. Compare this with ABS estimate in Australia with Brazilians at 40,000 Chileans at 32,000 and Colombians at 26,000. Taking account the population of the two countries the Latin Community in Australia already looks to make up a larger portion of the Aussie population than they do in the UK.

ABS Statistics

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...andnationality
Over inflated figures quite possibly. I'll stay with 2016 census figures, with the knowledge, that yes there are far more Brazilians and Colombians (know some) on study visas, with the hope, in many cases of staying on. I am also fully aware of Colombians, I have known here to have had to return in recent times, with visa changes.
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Old 02-23-2019, 03:27 AM
 
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In the last census 140,000 Aussies reported speaking spanish at home and 50,000 spoke Portuguese. and i dont think many of them are from spain and Portugal.
Well that will include Aussie born, while yes the Latino population, will indeed be more numerous than the Spanish or Portuguese born, neither is exactly substantial. Happy though to live in an area where Spanish is indeed heard on a more regular basis on the street. It was the Irish accent, several years back.
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:34 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Well that will include Aussie born, while yes the Latino population, will indeed be more numerous than the Spanish or Portuguese born, neither is exactly substantial. Happy though to live in an area where Spanish is indeed heard on a more regular basis on the street. It was the Irish accent, several years back.
Indeed, but it is not substantial in the UK either. Cant rememder finding many people from that part of the world during my 4 years in london. That was in the early 2000's.

Current estimates seem to put the current UK latin american population at around 180,000 and its highly centralized to London. Where Australia's are far more spread out.

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