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Old 08-24-2018, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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They'd certainly get you labelled a left winger in Australia. A politician wanting to discuss affordable housing or similar issues here would most likely choose a very different ideological starting point and rhetoric.
Australian politics is just more volatile.

Australia has nothing to teach NZ, as far as right wing economic policies go.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:23 PM
 
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Australian politics is just more volatile.
It depends how you assess volatility. In terms of government policy and governance over the last few decades, NZ had more substantial changes of direction than has Australia.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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It depends how you assess volatility. In terms of government policy and governance over the last few decades, NZ had more substantial changes of direction than has Australia.
Volatility in terms of rhetoric -Adern's comments are within context, so didn't really cause a stir here.

Changes of direction are just pragmatism, and are in response to existing policies, not underlying ideological belief.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:00 AM
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Based on my perception of this post and friends who lived on both Australia and New Zealand: it would appear that New Zealand is less racist (at least by a little bit) compared to Australia. My Mexican friends (not family) have been mistaken as Paki or Middle Eastern by Australians constantly and made racial slurs toward them. Whereas in New Zealand, hardly any or at least mistaken as being part Maori.

Which may explain in small part why Australia is reluctant to issue ETA to Latin American countries (at least, in part) due to perception of them all still being poor and drug smugglers. Casual racist remarks were more common in Australia compared to New Zealand. Both countries are strict with customs and quarantine, however.

Hardly any Mexicans in New Zealand or Australia, though. So I do not buy it being a migrant issue since it is so far away and it has not happened in New Zealand despite having tourist visa free access.

So yeah, my Mexican family will be visiting New Zealand....I will still go visit Australia next year since I have a American passport, as well.

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Old 11-17-2018, 03:10 AM
 
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Australian politics is just more volatile.

Australia has nothing to teach NZ, as far as right wing economic policies go.
Australian politics is divided and divisive in the same way US politics is.

It is fractured and split. We only have 25 million people but we're already on our way for the inability to see eye to eye, and an extreme radical left or right wing who cannot accept alternative or opposing views to their own. It's populist politics all over again.

Something has happened to the Western world in the last 30 years, especially AUS and the USA, and I fear it can be summed up in one word: stupidity. Arrogance, ignorance and extreme narcissism (absorption and lack of empathy) also played a big role in the problems we are seeing in today's world.
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