Feral Cat Hanging Tree In Australia (living, versus, statistics) - Page 3 - City-Data Forum

minibrings · 02-13-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by moonshadow

What a charmer.

WHEN you're finished doing that I'm fairly certain you've got a lot of work to do in your own backyard when it comes to barbaric practices and the extermination of animals and humans alike, I suggest you get on with that.

Are you talking about the tens of thousands dead in Iraq, the victims of Agent Orange in Vietnam or the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in Nagasaki or Hiroshima?

minibrings · 02-13-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren

Actually if you had done your research you would know that they don't have to be trapped, they can be chemically fixed through food left out for them. This route has been taken in the US with different wild animals that had a population that was too rapidly expanding.

Sterilizing them does not stop them from doing continued damage. Do you know how large Australia is and how difficult it would be to go to every bloody state and do what you claim should be done from your comfy armchair?

Why don't you come to Oz and take em all back to the States and release them there? Come on, what are you waiting for.... send us pictures of you in Oz saving cats so we know that you actually are doing something about the problem..

Lindsey_Mcfarren · 02-13-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by minibrings

If you do your research then you would see that they are still alive and doing damage to the landscape. Sterilizing does not stop them from doing damage. Why don't you come to Oz and take em back to the States and release them there? Come on, what are you waiting for..

Think about what your saying, if they can't reproduce, they will die out unless YOUR OWN PEOPLE are still releasing them into the wild and are you asking me to feel sorry for you then??

Its cruel and I am still reeling from it. Say what you will.

moonshadow · 02-13-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by minibrings

They are just trying to catch up with Americans in cruelty -- there are a lot more animals shot in the US from sanctioned hunting. People should not be so quick to make blanket judgements stating all 21 million inhabitants of one country are cruel when they do not discuss their own shortcomings.

In fact it would be a non-issue if it were cane toads that were being discussed.

So far I'm having trouble tracking down said PBS special including the offending tree. THE ONLY evidence I've found so far is a photo in the archives of a tree in Queensland from the 1930s WHICH I wouldn't mind betting served the dual purpose of tanning the hides for other purposes.
I'll keep looking. And thinking about all the deer heads so proudly adorned over fire places everywhere I went in America while I'm at it. Or the wolves at Wolfhaven International. OR the complete and utter lack of bison.

moonshadow · 02-13-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by minibrings

Are you talking about the tens of thousands dead in Iraq, the victims of Agent Orange in Vietnam or the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in Nagasaki or Hiroshima?

Well Iraq did spring to mind but I was mostly thinking of the extermination of the buffalo herds and the number of people in the US that seem to think it's cute to own a monkey and then can't cope when they revert to the natural instincts or the people that think you can domesticate wolves and then freak out and don't know what to do when they discover you can't. I guess I haven't really bothered spending too much time looking at the practices of Americans when it comes to animals and introduced species because we've got enough to deal with here with introduced species.

minibrings · 02-13-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moonshadow

So far I'm having trouble tracking down said PBS special including the offending tree. THE ONLY evidence I've found so far is a photo in the archives of a tree in Queensland from the 1930s WHICH I wouldn't mind betting served the dual purpose of tanning the hides for other purposes.
I'll keep looking. And thinking about all the deer heads so proudly adorned over fire places everywhere I went in America while I'm at it. Or the wolves at Wolfhaven International. OR the complete and utter lack of bison.

I haven't found anything on google either. Is someone taking the piszz out on us?

moonshadow · 02-13-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren

Think about what your saying, if they can't reproduce, they will die out unless YOUR OWN PEOPLE are still releasing them into the wild and are you asking me to feel sorry for you then??

Its cruel and I am still reeling from it. Say what you will.

Lindsey in the meantime, they still have to eat AND you still have to catch ALL of them to have them die out AND their life expectancy is at least a decade. That's a lot of meals, a lot of natives.

moonshadow · 02-13-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by minibrings

I haven't found anything on google either. Is someone taking the **** out on us?

Not sure but as soon as this thread appeared I started looking for the supposed PBS video OR any evidence of the tree or trees. So far I've only found one picture in the National archives which would tend to suggest we're dealing in past tense with the tree anyway. I'm starting to think it's just an opportunity for a little pious outrage without much substance.

minibrings · 02-13-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lindsey_Mcfarren

Think about what your saying, if they can't reproduce, they will die out unless YOUR OWN PEOPLE are still releasing them into the wild and are you asking me to feel sorry for you then??

Its cruel and I am still reeling from it. Say what you will.

Have you EVEN verified if this story was true.. before you throw your mock outrage about? Before you call 22 million people cruel hearted and come across as idiotic?

minibrings · 02-13-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by moonshadow

Not sure but as soon as this thread appeared I started looking for the supposed PBS video OR any evidence of the tree or trees. So far I've only found one picture in the National archives which would tend to suggest we're dealing in past tense with the tree anyway. I'm starting to think it's just an opportunity for a little pious outrage without much substance.

Well perhaps its best to let these folks do the research. Instead open a fosters and have a vegAmite burger...

Ive looked and looked and found nothing about said tree.