Racism in Australia compared to US and Canada (school, moving) - Page 3 - City-Data Forum

Sonrise · 02-27-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kangaroofarmer

That's very Wog!

The thing is my mom's a fair skinned red head with dutch, German and English heritage. She'd look like an old school Aussie. lol

So, I'm half Greek, my wife is Philipino and her grandfather is from Spain, so I guess my 15 month old daughter is a Greekapino.

Vichel · 02-27-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonrise

No we didn't, not in regards to immigration, and not as recent as 36 years ago. Answer me this as honestly as possible: can you ever imagine an aborigine Prime Minister? Honestly?

Depends. If he/she was for Australia - all Australians - I don't see a problem. I certainly wouldn't care about the colour of their skin. But if it's one of the activist, perpetual grievance and blame sort, who needs to drive a wedge between Them and Us then no, they'd be creamed in an election. Who'd want that? Nobody - not the Skips, Wogs, Balts, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, not any of them.

Obama spoke for everyone. People like Mick Dodson, our Australian of the Year, speaks for only Aboriginals, and in a negative, blame whitie forever, woe is us, we can't ever get ahead unless we're on top sticking it to whitie for the past, type of way. That'll never get anyone anywhere, except for Dodson and his type, who thrive on the perpetual grievance industry, so as to have their "jobs", whatever that may be.

Put Noel Pearson on the ticket, and I'd vote for him.

Kangaroofarmer · 02-27-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonrise

The thing is my mom's a fair skinned red head with dutch, German and English heritage. She'd look like an old school Aussie. lol

So, I'm half Greek, my wife is Philipino and her grandfather is from Spain, so I guess my 15 month old daughter is a Greekapino.

Your mother sounds very much like me (Minus the red hair

). I'm abit of a "Skip"....I'm Part Dutch and part Welsh.

Kangaroofarmer · 02-27-2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vichel

Depends. If he/she was for Australia - all Australians - I don't see a problem. I certainly wouldn't care about the colour of their skin. But if it's one of the activist, perpetual grievance and blame sort, who needs to drive a wedge between Them and Us then no, they'd be creamed in an election. Who'd want that? Nobody - not the Skips, Wogs, Balts, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, not any of them.

Obama spoke for everyone. People like Mick Dodson, our Australian of the Year, speaks for only Aboriginals, and in a negative, blame whitie forever, woe is us, we can't ever get ahead unless we're on top sticking it to whitie for the past, type of way. That'll never get anyone anywhere, except for Dodson and his type, who thrive on the perpetual grievance industry, so as to have their "jobs", whatever that may be.

Put Noel Pearson on the ticket, and I'd vote for him.

Exactly, we need an Aboriginal who will speak for ALL Australians. Not just HIS people!

Sonrise · 02-27-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vichel

Depends. If he/she was for Australia - all Australians - I don't see a problem. I certainly wouldn't care about the colour of their skin. But if it's one of the activist, perpetual grievance and blame sort, who needs to drive a wedge between Them and Us then no, they'd be creamed in an election. Who'd want that? Nobody - not the Skips, Wogs, Balts, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, not any of them.

Obama spoke for everyone. People like Mick Dodson, our Australian of the Year, speaks for only Aboriginals, and in a negative, blame whitie forever, woe is us, we can't ever get ahead unless we're on top sticking it to whitie for the past, type of way. That'll never get anyone anywhere, except for Dodson and his type, who thrive on the perpetual grievance industry, so as to have their "jobs", whatever that may be.

Put Noel Pearson on the ticket, and I'd vote for him.

Oh boy, the "blame whitey" movement is big business here. Despite Obama claiming he's for everyone, he's appointed Eric Holder as Attorney General and he just gave a really crummy speech about how we're cowards about race; that's codespeak for blame whitey. UGH!! I hear you guys on that one.

Sonrise · 02-27-2009, 01:10 AM

I just wikied Noel Pearson. He seems pretty cool. As a conservative, personal responsibility and accountability are of utmost importance to me and that's what Pearson seems to be advocating.

The victim, entitlement mentality is what's holding down so many blacks here, and there as well, it seems. it's really a shame.

Vichel · 02-27-2009, 01:22 AM

And it just creates a whole new generation of resentment and racism. I don't want my kids to view Aboriginals negatively. And when we first got here, we did not say a thing in the negative about them. Then my son got mugged in broad daylight, twice in the space of 20 minutes, in the middle of City, called a "White C***". And since then, both my kids have seen enough and heard enough, to make them say 'Hey! Stop blaming and hating, and just get over it!"

It's not like "white" Australia is deliberately holding back Aboriginals. We give them what they want - job opportunities (sometimes to the exclusion of non-Aboriginals), housing, closed communities with royalties from tourism and industry, respect for their spiritual beliefs, special departments to cater just for their needs, etc., etc. Nobody is stopping them from moving forward. We just get so friggin' frustrated at being thumped on the head all the time and told we're horrible. Most genuinely want Aboriginals to stop living in squalor and misery, and stop abusing each other, but it seems like some of them don't. It's got to be a two-way street. But it's not.

Dodson is a race-baiter. Pearson preaches personal responsibility and using the tools and opportunities to get ahead. But unfortunately, Dodson's message is more popular.

So the rest of us just shrug our shoulders and shake our heads in frustration. We do not know what more to do!

Trimac20 · 02-27-2009, 01:31 AM

You can't undo the past. Nor can you hold a grudge forever. Having said that it's also a two-way street; a lot of non-Indigenous Australians are civil to Indigenous people, but this seems to have limited results. Some still hold racist views which they've had since Federation. The thing is, you can't change a whole people overnight, who have been stuck in a rut. We need to change one step at a night, but make sure each step is actually taken, not merely glossed over with political rhetoric.

f1000 · 02-27-2009, 01:39 AM

Australia is behind both the US and Canada in terms of racial tolerance. Of course the US has clear de facto racism and often racial/ ethnic groups do not mix, but considering the country's history & racial dynamic i'd say the openness to change is monumental...Canada is probably the most tolerant and open with less obligation for immigrants to assimiliate into the main culture though there is strong indifference towards that country's indigenous groups...but Australia has always had a certain reputation, and i am glad that i am an Asian-American and not an Asian-Australian...just my thoughts.

Trimac20 · 02-27-2009, 01:50 AM

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Australia is behind both the US and Canada in terms of racial tolerance. Of course the US has clear de facto racism and often racial/ ethnic groups do not mix, but considering the country's history & racial dynamic i'd say the openness to change is monumental...Canada is probably the most tolerant and open with less obligation for immigrants to assimiliate into the main culture though there is strong indifference towards that country's indigenous groups...but Australia has always had a certain reputation, and i am glad that i am an Asian-American and not an Asian-Australian...just my thoughts.

Have you been here? Anything in particular gave you that idea?