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ColdCanadian, is there a reason you are thinking temporary work permits?
To answer your questions, yes, a temporary visa especially the 457 ties you to an employer or a rural area.
When I migrated to Australia, I applied for the Permanent Resident visa based on points which is similar to the points system in Canada. The visa was BN-136, look it up on the DIMIA website.
With this visa, you have no restrictions.
some people may not be interested in migrating, some may just want a temporary work permit.. migration does not work for everyone.. right?
Just because you apply for and get a visa does not mean that you have to migrate and live there permanently. You can go, live/work there and then decide whether to stick around or not. Thats what many people do.
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some may just want a temporary work permit..
Understood, and I am sure anyone would prefer getting a visa without restrictions so that they can work wherever they like. Getting a permanent visa does not stop someone from working temporarily.
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migration does not work for everyone.. right?
I know what you are implying, and if you are the kind who thinks that people migrate to other countries out of desperation because they have a pathetic existence in their own country, I dont want to debate on this any more.
Just because you apply for and get a visa does not mean that you have to migrate and live there permanently. You can go, live/work there and then decide whether to stick around or not. Thats what many people do.
That's kind of what I am looking for as I would still like the option of doing contract work back in the USA as well as what I could do in Australia. Since I have a "consulting" business I have also looked at temporary business visa options. Unfortunately I am over 30 and am not eligible for the working holiday visa which would allow me to get my feet wet there.
ColdCanadian.. good luck with your decision. It seems a good idea to do the temporary work visa first this way you really know what you are getting into. I've read too many stories of people migrating from one country to another, getting citizenship (esp if an Aussie passport makes it easier to travel), then leaving and bad mouthing the country. I found a website of like minded people who are spreading negative comments about Canada, NZ, etc.
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And ColdCanadian.. good luck with your decision. It seems a good idea to do the temporary work visa first this way you really know what you are getting into. I've read too many stories of people migrating from one country to another, getting citizenship (esp if an Aussie passport makes it easier to travel), then leaving and bad mouthing the country. I found a website of like minded people who are spreading negative comments about Canada, NZ, etc.
I think it's always good to experience things first by having a long visit or a temporary work situation before you make the life commitment to move wholesale to some place you've never been to. Sometimes when I see these threads from people that decide to get off the couch one day and want to move to Sweden or Argentina or whatever without knowing zilch about the country I'm just like
I have a number of friends in NZ currently on the working holiday 1 year visa and they all pretty much have the same conclusion I did. Great to visit, great to travel around, lots of cool things to do, but in terms of working there, living there year round, cost of living and other issues it proved to be impractical. They are all returning to the USA at some point, despite all previously before the trip wanting to move there permanently. So there again I think it's good to get the feet wet before plunging in.
ColdCanadian.. good luck with your decision. It seems a good idea to do the temporary work visa first this way you really know what you are getting into. I've read too many stories of people migrating from one country to another, getting citizenship (esp if an Aussie passport makes it easier to travel), then leaving and bad mouthing the country. I found a website of like minded people who are spreading negative comments about Canada, NZ, etc.
Thanks a lot, minibrings.
I'm hoping that the "worst case" scenario things don't work out for whatever reason
but I still end up getting to spend a few weeks or months in Australia seeing new sites,
trying new cuisine and maybe exposure to different kinds of work.
"Best case" scenario would be that my employers are great to work for,
they want me to stay and I lose interest in not only working in Canada,
(our climate sucks, but there's a great work-environment)
but also lose interest in someday moving to the southern U.S. too.
(however I will always want to vacation there )
ColdCanadian.. good luck with your decision. It seems a good idea to do the temporary work visa first this way you really know what you are getting into.
Isnt that what he said originally that he is thinking of doing?
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I've read too many stories of people migrating from one country to another, getting citizenship (esp if an Aussie passport makes it easier to travel), then leaving and bad mouthing the country. I found a website of like minded people who are spreading negative comments about Canada, NZ, etc.
Let me explain one last time, and if you still dont get it, I cant help anymore.
Getting a temporary visa does not mean that after the visa expires you have to leave and can never come back. Many people get a new one or another visa if they wish to come back.
If someone is stuck to an employer/place because of visa restrictions, they probably will not be able to explore all the possibilities in the new place.
Getting a permanent visa that entitles you to migrate does not mean that it is mandatory to sell off all your stuff and move to the new country.
Many people use this method to work/live in a country without restrictions.
Many people keep their property, etc in their old country and just spend a few years in the new one using this "migration visa".
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"Aussie passport makes it easier to travel"
So does the passport of a whole lot of other countries.
I havent heard of anyone that gets a passport from a new country just to travel. Wouldnt it be easier to move to the next country directly?
If you are trying to say that having Aussie citizenship/passport gives you entitlements that very few people in the world enjoy, you are sadly mistaken.
I have not heard of any country that is not open to accepting citizens of a certain country that they have to desperately need an Aussie passport to get there.
Paying the money required for a tourist visa is much much cheaper than spending a few years and a lot of money in another country just to get a passport.
"Aussie passport makes it easier to travel" is like taking out a mortgage and buying a house just to get a free coffee mug or mouse pad from the bank.
EXCUSE ME. Bugger off! I was not referring to you.. why do you need to make everything about you? I have no idea what you are going on and on about and you do NOT need to explain anything to me!
If you re-read my post I was referring to the web sites I have seen (e.g., notcanada.com) where you will read immigrants whinge about Canada yet are waiting to get CN citizenship so they can get a NAFTA visa to the US. NZ upped their residency from 3 to 5 years to curtail immigrants using NZ as a back door to Oz. I've personally met Sri Lankan, Iranian and Bangladeshi students in Oz who TOLD ME they wanted to apply for PR and get Aussie passports so they could travel the world much easier (no need for all the upfront visas). One of them wanted an Aussie passport as a backdoor to the US (work visa for Aussies or for the green card lottery).
I repeat, and if you do not understand, its your problem, I am NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU, I am talking about these web sites and people I've met. I will NOT discuss this with you further and you do not need to explain anything further.
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Isnt that what he said originally that he is thinking of doing?
Let me explain one last time, and if you still dont get it, I cant help anymore.
Getting a temporary visa does not mean that after the visa expires you have to leave and can never come back. Many people get a new one or another visa if they wish to come back.
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Yup and in this case you get to see if you are actually better in Oz, with your condition than back home. I can tell you my allergies are surprisingly much better in North America. In Adelaide I was buying 2 inhalers a month or more, in North America I have put away the inhalers and steroids. Of course this could be different if I were in another locale - a friend spends hundreds of dollars a month for asthma medication in Florida.
As for Oz cuisine.. be prepared. Fish and chips. Curries. Schnitzel. Burgers with egg and beetroot. Meat pies. Good stuff. And you have to try a roo steak at least once.
Have you contacted this agency in Oz about your visa options? Laws do change and they should be the most up to date.
Again, the try before you buy thing.. good idea.
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Thanks a lot, minibrings.
I'm hoping that the "worst case" scenario things don't work out for whatever reason
but I still end up getting to spend a few weeks or months in Australia seeing new sites,
trying new cuisine and maybe exposure to different kinds of work.
"Best case" scenario would be that my employers are great to work for,
they want me to stay and I lose interest in not only working in Canada,
(our climate sucks, but there's a great work-environment)
but also lose interest in someday moving to the southern U.S. too.
(however I will always want to vacation there )
Last edited by minibrings; 03-10-2009 at 12:32 PM..
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