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It seems like from the start the Maori were more respected by the European settlers than the Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders were.
Maori still face social problems and racism in New Zealand, but in general they seem far more assimilated into the national identity, while Australian Aborigines seem to be left so far behind in the system.
The Signing of the Treaty of Waitangi was Maori revelation of protecting the heritage and self identity. But Maori also had a constitution which was signed 10 years previous. Supported the Treaty Claims. Tupuna's (Ancestors) feared the change to Maori Dynamics, but understood that change needed to come in order for the coming generation to keep identity, traditions, principles and Maori rights. Today Maori does not see themselves as better educated or civilized than its brother of Australia the aborigines or Torres Straits, but rather grateful for the existence of a relationship they have as a strong black nation. Aborigines have a lot to teach and offer, they are preserved people living in their environment and not the back door of another. There is no comparison between Maori and Aborigines, just different journey's
Yes well, I get sick of maori people and the media claiming maori are the indigenous people of NZ. This is completely false. The Moriori are (and there are still some here in various degrees). The maori ate off most of the Moriori's.
Oh dear another confused visitor, Moriori are and have always been Maori, just a different iwi.
Had another visitor to NZ claim that, he turned down a $20,000 bet based on DNA when I showed him a report done on the Moriori iwi.
I admit I am tired of BNP supporting types being in NZ from the UK.
Time we chucked them out.
Interestingly, Maori were even treated better than aborigines in Australia; Maori were allowed to vote in Australia while aborigines weren't until much more recently (1962).
"...During the parliamentary debates over the Act, King O'Malley supported the inclusion of Maori, and the exclusion of Australian Aboriginals, in the franchise, arguing that "An aboriginal is not as intelligent as a Maori."
Yes well, I get sick of maori people and the media claiming maori are the indigenous people of NZ. This is completely false. The Moriori are (and there are still some here in various degrees). The maori ate off most of the Moriori's.
Uh...you may wish to research this. In the 1800s some Maori chartered a ship and invaded the Chathams, shooting and enslaving and cannabilising some of the Moriori occupants, yes. But that's nothing to do with eating the original inhabitants of NZ.
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Interestingly, Maori were even treated better than aborigines in Australia; Maori were allowed to vote in Australia while aborigines weren't until much more recently (1962).
"...During the parliamentary debates over the Act, King O'Malley supported the inclusion of Maori, and the exclusion of Australian Aboriginals, in the franchise, arguing that "An aboriginal is not as intelligent as a Maori."
Uh...you may wish to research this. In the 1800s some Maori chartered a ship and invaded the Chathams, shooting and enslaving and cannabilising some of the Moriori occupants, yes. But that's nothing to do with eating the original inhabitants of NZ.
Another little gem, when the white Australia policy came into force in the early 1900s ? the NZ govt got stuck into the Aussies about Maori not being allowed into Australia.
So the Australians got around that little problem by stating that NZ Maori were honourary whites in 1910 ?
I think Maori have always been allowed into Australia. The white Australia policy made provisions for "New Zealand natives" from memory.
Yep, you are right, I may have been thinking of this incident in 1948, the pity of it is that the 28th( Maori) Bat. were part of the Aust 9th Division at El Alamein.
(In 1948, however, Australia's federal Minister of Immigration attempted to ban Maori from settling in Australia, in accordance with the White Australia policy. Invoking existing immigration law which excluded Polynesians from Australia, the minister argued that Maori were Polynesians, and could therefore be excluded on racial grounds. The attempt reportedly created a minor diplomatic incident with New Zealand, and the minister involved apologised. Further attempts to restrict Maori immigration in the 1950s were overturned as they violated Maori's rights as British subjects and as New Zealand citizens.[7])
The Moriori got eaten by the Maori. Therefore the Maori I think were more feared as stated by a few others.
Funny how the Maori now claim land that was never theirs in the first place.
The moriori people and the maori were one and the same people. The only difference is the moriori ancestors left NZ for chatam islands some years later.
That is an old theory that was used to morally justify the incursion of european into new zealand i.e well it wasn't their lands in the 1st place so we can now take it from them.
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