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Old 09-29-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Why does everyone think Melbourne has a bad climate?

Melbourne's climate is comparable to the climate of Northern California. Its climate is right between San Francisco and San Jose.

San Francisco's highest average: 70 F 21 C
Melbourne's highest average: 79 F 26 C (same as Sydney)
San Jose's highest average: 84 F 29 C

San Francisco's lowest average: 46 F 8 C
Melbourne's lowest average: 43 F 6 C
San Jose's lowest average: 41 F 5 C

Also, Sydney gets almost twice as much rain.
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Default Just an educated guess?

I think it's probably two things;

- Lowest levels of sunshine in Australia;
180 cloudy days per year. (Days with 3/4 or greater cloudcover as defined by the B.O.M. )

- It seems to get a lot of sharp cold fronts, even in summer.
It's probably common for it to have highs of 85 F one day and 63 F the very next.
It might have also been 97 F once the previous week.

Since strong fronts are common, it probably makes the chilly days more of a shock.
California probably has much more stable weather.
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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Where's §AB?

Even Perth has more annual rainfall than Melbourne. Difference is, it dumps then leaves. Clears up. And for about 5 months of the year, we're lucky to get anything other than brilliant blue skies, even praying for rain.

My family lives in and near Melbourne and they complain about the weather too - the greyness, the cold, and that some years summer doesn't even show up - just a few days here and there of very hot days, but nothing consistent.
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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My family lives in and near Melbourne and they complain about the weather too - the greyness, the cold, and that some years summer doesn't even show up - just a few days here and there of very hot days, but nothing consistent.
I just checked the averages at Melbourne's Airport which might confirm what you said...

The warmest month (February) has an average high of 80 F (26.5 C),
the hottest 90% (Decile 9) average monthly high is 95 F (34.8 C)
while the coolest 10% (Decile 1) average monthly high is 68 F (19.8 C)

In fact there are no months that will "always" average a high of 70 F or higher.
It's probably very frustrating to some people that some years summer months can be "crazy-hot",
other years they are "nice-and-warm",
where some years its "perpetual Spring with a lot of sweater/jumper weather."


Canada doesn't make records like warmest 90%'s and coolest 10%'s...
But if I had to guess,
Toronto's coolest possible July high would probably average 73 F (23 C)
and hottest possible average high 87 (31 C)

*Toronto and Melbourne share almost identical long-term average monthly summer highs,
but Melbourne is probably equally hotter and cooler than Toronto.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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Everyone's idea of great weather can be quite different but lack of sunshine, I think, would be a downer for most people. Had a quick search for number of clear days in a year and San Francisco has 160 while Melbourne has 49.

Personally, I'd rather cooler weather with more sunny skies than warmer with lots of cloudy days. But then that's just me. Excessive greyness depresses me. We've had a particularly dull patch of grey weather in Perth this season and everyone's whinging.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Everyone's idea of great weather can be quite different but lack of sunshine, I think, would be a downer for most people. Had a quick search for number of clear days in a year and San Francisco has 160 while Melbourne has 49.

Personally, I'd rather cooler weather with more sunny skies than warmer with lots of cloudy days. But then that's just me. Excessive greyness depresses me. We've had a particularly dull patch of grey weather in Perth this season and everyone's whinging.
I definitely agree.
When they do weather forecasts for places like Florida, California and the Caribbean, they call them "Sunshine Destinations",
which I find odd, as "warmth" matters more to me... But apparently "sun" is what a lot of people notice more than warmth.


To a point, I'd agree with that.
I think I'd prefer sunshine, until there's a difference of 5+ C.
I'd prefer 16 C and sunny to 20 C and full overcast, but I wouldn't prefer 15 C or cooler with full sun.
Same with higher temps; I'd prefer 26 C with full sun instead of 30 C and overcast, but probably not 25 C or cooler with full sun.
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:26 AM
 
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Default Why does everyone think Melbourne has a bad climate?

Not everyone does.
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:50 PM
 
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Not everyone does.
That's true

In 2004 Melbourne was voted 'Best City In The World To Live'
By a World Wide Survey conducted by The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU)
Melbourne 'world's top city' - National - www.theage.com.au

1= Melbourne
1= Vancouver
1= Vienna
4 Perth
5 Geneva
6= Adelaide
6= Brisbane
6= Copenhagen
6= Montreal
6= Oslo
6= Sydney
6= Zurich
13= Helsinki
13= Stockholm
13= Toronto

'Often derided as Bleak City by Sydneysiders, Melbourne topped a survey of 130 cities, narrowly beating out the other four Australian capitals surveyed - because its weather rated the best'

I remember this survey being on the front page of the West Australian Newspaper years ago
Lets just say it didn't go down well that Perth had lost to Melbourne as the
most livable place in the World to live because of all things .....The Weather
Its funny how Australians have very different views in which cities in this country have the best climate
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Old 10-04-2009, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington
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That's true

'Often derided as Bleak City by Sydneysiders, Melbourne topped a survey of 130 cities, narrowly beating out the other four Australian capitals surveyed - because its weather rated the best'

I remember this survey being on the front page of the West Australian Newspaper years ago
Lets just say it didn't go down well that Perth had lost to Melbourne as the
most livable place in the World to live because of all things .....The Weather

Its funny how Australians have very different views in which cities in this country have the best climate
Haha, that's hilarious!
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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What bizarre survey results! I agree with Melbourne getting accolades but not for its weather And then for little old paranoid-of-change, isolated Perth to be all the way up there with the likes of Melbourne and Vancouver ...

And Adelaide not far behind? I'm sure jacq63 is just as puzzled with that one as I am with the Perth result.
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