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Old 05-12-2011, 07:28 PM
 
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I was bored tonight, so I was just browsing youtube and decided to check out some of the past race finishes. After I saw this video, I cant help but be sad, and miss the way NASCAR used to be. I WISH we could go back to this kind of racing.


YouTube - 2001 EA Sports 500 Wild Finish


I got a question for ya..

IF you can change one thing about 'modern' NASCAR, what would it be?

For me, GET RID OF THE TANDEM CRAP on plate tracks. Pack racing is way more intense. In this video, you have what, 30 cars within a second of eachother. You cant beat classic dega!
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Hernando, FL
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I'd like to see them incorporate some of the things you may see at a local short track. I wish they would get rid rid of qualifying alltogether and just invert their starting order according to points, 1st in points starts 43rd, 2nd 42nd, and so on.

Also pay the start and parks better, so there are no start and parks. Actually field 43 cars that have a legitimate chance of winning the race.

Also if a certain driver has one or two tracks down pat and is all but assured he's going to win (Kyle Busch @ Bristol for example) and he's one 4 or 5 of the last 6 put a bounty on him and significant bonus cash and points awarded for beating him.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:00 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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I was bored tonight, so I was just browsing youtube and decided to check out some of the past race finishes. After I saw this video, I cant help but be sad, and miss the way NASCAR used to be. I WISH we could go back to this kind of racing.


YouTube - 2001 EA Sports 500 Wild Finish


I got a question for ya..

IF you can change one thing about 'modern' NASCAR, what would it be?

For me, GET RID OF THE TANDEM CRAP on plate tracks. Pack racing is way more intense. In this video, you have what, 30 cars within a second of eachother. You cant beat classic dega!
Sorry but REAL NASCAR super speedway racing ended the day they put the first restrictor plate on those engines.

The last great race at Talledega was when Bill Elliott qualified at 212 MPH.
The best finish was when Elliott made up two laps, UNDER GREEN,UNDER GREEN,UNDER GREEN. TWO LAPS UNDER GREEN
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Old 05-15-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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Sorry but REAL NASCAR super speedway racing ended the day they put the first restrictor plate on those engines.

The last great race at Talledega was when Bill Elliott qualified at 212 MPH.
The best finish was when Elliott made up two laps, UNDER GREEN,UNDER GREEN,UNDER GREEN. TWO LAPS UNDER GREEN
True story! They also had no speed restrictions on pitt road and the drivers could come in hot and get out fast to make up the green flag pitt laps--but crew members were getting hurt. When cars had no restrictor plates drivers and even the fans were being hurt. There were probably only 15 cars that really had a good chance of winning back then too because there wasn't as much money in the sport---there were a lot of differences. I do agree with you though PDD, the racing is not like it use to be. Safety has become a big issue and I have to say I sure don't want to see anyone die trying to entertain us. I just keep hoping they can figure out a better way to contain the car speeds so we can get back to the racing so many of us remember.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:13 AM
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It's very simple for NASCAR to control top speeds with a gear rule. For some reason NASCAR does not want to do that. Todays engines cannot run at 10,000 RPMS all day. so a simple gear rule would work.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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DH doesn't agree PDD--he said it would end up like the restrictor plates and everyone would end up going the same speed and or would burn the tires off or bog down the engine. Personally I have no idea on this one--just writing what DH said! DH is a gear man....
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Old 05-15-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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With that high of a gear (lower numerically), it would be next to impossible to get the car rolling from a dead stop. The clutch would be fried in no time.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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I agree that safety is a big reason for all the changes, but when is it too much? Restricting the cars anymore would be like the NFL playing two-hand-touch. The risk factor will be there as long as there are cars going fast on a track. There are some drivers that are as big a risk as unrestricted cars going 220 at Talladega.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:47 PM
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With that high of a gear (lower numerically), it would be next to impossible to get the car rolling from a dead stop. The clutch would be fried in no time.
You might want to think that over again.
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Old 05-16-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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The tandem racing is not fun to watch for the first 499 miles, that's for sure. But even skeptics have to admit that Daytona had an exciting finish with Trevor Bayne winning and 'Dega was also exciting with 8 cars going 4 wide across the finish line within milliseconds of each other.

Actually just about all year the finishes have been great. The first 95% of the race is boring. Dover was pretty much a snoozer yesterday, but although I'm not a fan, it was nice that Matt Kenesth finally got a win after a long drought.
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