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Old 07-19-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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I'm sorry that you lack reading comprehension skills.
I never said F1 cars are closer to real cars. All I said was that a Nascar is no closer to an actual car than a F1 car.
Semantics.

And that statement is still grossly incorrect. Maybe you missed where I pointed out that F1 cars aren't even attempting to represent an actual car. Please explain how a car that's not trying to represent a car isn't less like an actual car than a car (NASCAR) that is intended to represent an actual car.

Never mind. You're not going to change my mind.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Semantics.

And that statement is still grossly incorrect. Maybe you missed where I pointed out that F1 cars aren't even attempting to represent an actual car. Please explain how a car that's not trying to represent a car isn't less like an actual car than a car (NASCAR) that is intended to represent an actual car.

Never mind. You're not going to change my mind.
The statement is not grossly incorrect and I don't care if I change your mind or not.
The only thing a NASCAR and a F1 car have in common with a street car is that they all have 4 wheels and an engine. The only way a NASCAR is attempting to represent an actual car is that it has a roof and fenders. The fact that it's attempting to look like a street car doesn't make it any closer to an actual street car.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:09 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So a car has to have fenders before it is considered a car? I would argue that a Nascar is no closer to an actual car than an F1 car. At least technology used in F1 trickles down to actual production cars.
Actually, some of the technology common in even relatively low end production cars, traction control & ABS brakes is banned in F1. I'd like to see F1 regs open up a bit, I miss the days when we'd see V-8s, V-12s, flat 12s, even an H-16 in the same race.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:55 AM
 
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Actually, some of the technology common in even relatively low end production cars, traction control & ABS brakes is banned in F1.
That's not always been the case. Traction control was just banned from F1 in 2008.
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Old 07-29-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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That's not always been the case. Traction control was just banned from F1 in 2008.
I know, I miss the days when innovation was encouraged in F1, it seems every year it gets closer to a spec series. I say turn 'em loose, if someone can make an engine live at 20,000 RPM, let it happen, eliminate the artificial limits. I'm not a fan of mandated engine configuration/number of cylinders. I'd actually like to see F1 go to L/Kg rule, let the designers decide whether to go small engine/less weight or more engine/more weight.
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