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View Poll Results: Which type of auto racing do you like?
NASCAR 31 32.63%
Indy 9 9.47%
Formula 1 43 45.26%
Drag 3 3.16%
Other, feel free to comment 9 9.47%
Voters: 95. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-13-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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I think that that is a different situation though. When you blow a tire and damage the suspension in F1, you have no chance at the win or at earning any points. He already has the championship wrapped up, why go back out?
Because it's your job, that's why, Because the sponsors paid millions for their logos to be seen driving around as much as possible. Because racers race.

If what you say is true, and I don't believe it is, that's a sad pathetic reason to not fix the car and go back out. I think it's because if these cars aren't absolutely perfect, they're useless. That's not very exciting to me.
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:40 AM
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Because it's your job, that's why, Because the sponsors paid millions for their logos to be seen driving around as much as possible. Because racers race.

If what you say is true, and I don't believe it is, that's a sad pathetic reason to not fix the car and go back out. I think it's because if these cars aren't absolutely perfect, they're useless. That's not very exciting to me.
Just another example of why real race fans have little interest in F1

When Kenseth was wrecked yesterday in a NASCAR race(ironically by a Red Bull owned car) his team did not quit even though they had no chance of a decent finish.
The spent a long time repairing the car so that their sponsor got as much TV exposure time as possible.
That's what real racers do.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:41 PM
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The problem is, of course, that you are merely speculating about what the damage was to Vettel's car. If you watched on Speed, note that Matchett was highlighting the crewman moving the entire axle and brake assembly, which should not move. The speculation was that there were multiple broken parts and massive suspension damage - in that case you don't know what damage is visible and what damage is not.

I'd rather not see a replay of Senna, thank you very much.
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:17 AM
 
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Just another example of why real race fans have little interest in F1

When Kenseth was wrecked yesterday in a NASCAR race(ironically by a Red Bull owned car) his team did not quit even though they had no chance of a decent finish.
The spent a long time repairing the car so that their sponsor got as much TV exposure time as possible.
Well, it's not JUST sponsorship. Positions equal points throughout the entire field - so if they get back out there, and others drop out there's more points, which could result in a position(s) gained at the end of the season.

I've attended NASCAR races (both national and local), IndyCar and NHRA events. Would like to get to an F1 event, maybe Austin next year (if it happens).

All that said, I prefer non-winged USAC sprint cars on a 1/4-1/2 mile dirt oval over any of the above choices and will drive 4-5 hours to catch an event if I have to.
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Old 11-16-2011, 03:27 AM
 
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in reference to my previous post - which I can't edit for some reason: Indiana Sprint Week - YouTube
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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You don't believe that is how the F1 points system works?

Formula 1 Points System

Only the top 10 of 26 cars earn points.

And there is also a BIG difference between Vettel and Kenseth. Vettel has won the championship and had nothing to lose or gain. Vettel has also won 11 races this season. I really don't think that this damaged the sponsor-team relationship.

Kenseth has not won the championship, yet fixing the car would be an advantage for him, as that is how the points system works.

If Kenseth had no shot at points, then do you really think they would bother fixing the car? I doubt it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 07:13 PM
 
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You don't believe that is how the F1 points system works?

Formula 1 Points System

Only the top 10 of 26 cars earn points.

And there is also a BIG difference between Vettel and Kenseth. Vettel has won the championship and had nothing to lose or gain. Vettel has also won 11 races this season. I really don't think that this damaged the sponsor-team relationship.

Kenseth has not won the championship, yet fixing the car would be an advantage for him, as that is how the points system works.

If Kenseth had no shot at points, then do you really think they would bother fixing the car? I doubt it.
Don't know if this was directed at my response or not....but, if it was, I'm well aware of how the point systems work.

My response to PDD was illustrating that it's not JUST sponsorship that motivates the Cup guys to get back out there....points are given throughout the field and a few points here and there can make a difference at year's end.

If the response wasn't directed at mine....then carry on.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:10 PM
 
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Upon more review by me I determine F1 and Indy to be better than Nascar. I can just not get into it and I have tried. Indy is starting to promote it's sport better and F1 does a pretty good job. Indy puts full races up on youtube right after the race just finishes! I also love the F1 website which let's see qualifying from onboard the car and they have 3-5 min race recaps. I wish the recaps were longer or if they would put full races on their site or you tubes. F1 has a race in Austin TX this year I might just have to drive down and check it out after all how often does F1 come to the USA.


2011 FORMULA 1 BELGIAN GRAND PRIX recap:

Formula 1
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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2012 Indy Car Series Firestone 500K at Texas Dramatic Finish - YouTube
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Open-wheel is always more interesting than the slow taxicabs going round and round.

NASCAR is B*O*R*I*N*G*.
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