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Old 08-02-2011, 07:57 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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They are at the nopi events to the point of overloading the stands. It's the wrong wheel drive cars they use everyday that they relate to. But these same younger folks do respect the big nhra and ihra, and they do love drag racing. Ever go to a midnight madness drag race? the place was packed and you would be lucky to get 2 passes in from the shur number of younger generation and their cars.
Back in the day they're were no NOPI events. (60-80's) because the V-8's ruled the track. Now you have so many tuners with 4 bangers running really fast it has brought out the NOPI people.
I agree that the National events bring out the "older fans" but then again it is the big HP V-8's that dominate.
Plus real drag racing "heads up"
Nothing more boring than throttle stop racing.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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They are at the nopi events to the point of overloading the stands. It's the wrong wheel drive cars they use everyday that they relate to. But these same younger folks do respect the big nhra and ihra, and they do love drag racing. Ever go to a midnight madness drag race? the place was packed and you would be lucky to get 2 passes in from the shur number of younger generation and their cars.

We grew up with the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. The VW and Mazda's are the type of cars the kids love to tune now.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Back in the day they're were no NOPI events. (60-80's) because the V-8's ruled the track. Now you have so many tuners with 4 bangers running really fast it has brought out the NOPI people.
I agree that the National events bring out the "older fans" but then again it is the big HP V-8's that dominate.
Plus real drag racing "heads up"
Nothing more boring than throttle stop racing.

Throttle stop systems should be banned. Nothing more boring then seeing a quick car take off, the throttle stop system kick in, then the car nearly stops and then takes off again. If I made the rules, those things would be banned completely!
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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We grew up with the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. The VW and Mazda's are the type of cars the kids love to tune now.

That is why test and tune nights are popular with the kids, especially if it turns into a late/all night time trials. Ever see a 1400lb, 500hp civic racecar? it's quick!
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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That is why test and tune nights are popular with the kids, especially if it turns into a late/all night time trials. Ever see a 1400lb, 500hp civic racecar? it's quick!

Have you ever seen a 2350 lbs nitrous pro mod camaro running 3.78 seconds in 1/8 mile!
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Have you ever seen a 2350 lbs nitrous pro mod camaro running 3.78 seconds in 1/8 mile!

Driven a friends Pro Mod early 70's styled aero Camaro, 3.8957 @190 mph in the 1/8. Fun ride! He needs a few more things to be competitive, but i think his wallet is tapped out at this level for the rest of this year. I know over winter there is some things he is going to do it to get another 2 tenths he hopes out of it. He was kinda upset I went .06 quicker than he ever has in it, yet he was happy the car ran in the 3.80's on a 98 degree day.
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:08 PM
 
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Driven a friends Pro Mod early 70's styled aero Camaro, 3.8957 @190 mph in the 1/8. Fun ride! He needs a few more things to be competitive, but i think his wallet is tapped out at this level for the rest of this year. I know over winter there is some things he is going to do it to get another 2 tenths he hopes out of it. He was kinda upset I went .06 quicker than he ever has in it, yet he was happy the car ran in the 3.80's on a 98 degree day.
Blower or nitrous combo?
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Blower or nitrous combo?

Nitrous.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Dyno'ed a 496" Mopar today, 440.com heads that I ported, (they are in cast form very simular to Edelbrock's Performer RPM in flow numbers and performance). Mild custom ground retro fit hyd. roller, cam, 226/232 @ .050", .639"/.610" lift intake/exhaust, 8.75 to 1 compression, 111 LSA, Thing is a monster torque engine. Peak torque at 4300 rpm was 601, and peak HP was at 5700 rpm and 593hp. It seemed kind of wacky in some regards, but I think the guy will enjoy it in his 64 Valiant. It's being built for a "Pro Touring" type set up, hince the low compression he requested. It idled fine at 800 rpm with 16"+ vacuum. The intake is the Mopar Performance big dual plane that was port matched to the heads, with a smoothing of the radious into the ports from the plentum. All total I had about 1 1/2 hours into the intake work. Carb is a 870 Holley Street Advenger with electric choke. Mallory Distributor, (didn't get to recurve it), 1 7/8" jet hot coated type looking headers, and I have to say I do not know who made them.
Over all I am happy with the results, and honestly it's a bit stronger than I expected it to be.
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Old 08-22-2011, 08:22 AM
 
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My 80 cutlass has a 357 SBC (.040 over). Right around 8.0/1 CR with a pair of 66mm Garrett turbos. On a very fat tune it put 557HP & 536TQ to the tires at 9 psi. Leaning it out to around 11/1 AF it picked up another 40 hp and this is still considered a fat (safe) tune on pump 93.

Right now the car doesn't have an intercooler so I'm reluctant to run higher boost on pump gas. Considering running E85 but it's still a bit hard to find around here so I might just slap an intercooler on it and go for it. Motor should make somewhere between 900-1000HP on pump gas without too much trouble.

My buddy just picked up a low comp 632 BBC that we are putting a pair of 91mm Garrett's on. It's going into a 69 Camaro street car. Talking with some of the better known tuners this combo should easily make in excess of 2000HP and be very steetable and friendly.

Reply to other responses. Nascar motors make 800+HP from 358 inches but there is literally millions of dollars in those engine programs. Finding 1 additional HP could easily cost as much as 10K in research and testing so 900+ HP from a mild 505 is pretty impressive.

Top fuel HP numbers are a calculation based on ET. They figure that it takes somewhere around 10000 HP to run the numbers they are today. Keep in mind that they only run 1000 ft now and not the full 1320. The number is just a educated guess as the cars are actually spinning the tires all the way down the track. The 10000HP number is most likely conservative.

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