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Old 07-31-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA and Washington, DC
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Winning your first race is big but at Indy makes it even sweeter!
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Old 07-31-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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Yes--agreed!
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:19 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Yes congrats to Paul Menard. A win is a win even if it's a gas mileage win.

Has anybody noticed that NASCAR racing especially on road courses and the longer tracks 2.5 that are not super speedways (Pocono, Indy) are becoming pit strategy and mileage races.
The fastest cars in this race did not figure in the win, Gordon, Kenseth, Kane, Johnson all ran up front for most of the day but because of pit strategy did not figure in the win.
I know pit strategy is important but it has changed the racing and running fast all day is not as important as good mileage.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think most fans want to see good hard racing for the win with the race winner being a driver who ran up front for most of the race.

Many people don't like the "cookie cutter" 1.5 mile tracks but because it is too easy to lose a lap when pitting you don't see many gas mileage races.

For the owners and drivers a win is the most important thing but for the fans we want to see racing.

Lots of fans at Indy today were disguised as empty seats and if this gas mileage racing continues I predict a lot more fans will be in disguise.
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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The Brickyard 400 was a boring race before the new car came along, and it will continue to be a race that's all hype and no action. IMS is just an awful venue for stock cars.
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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Congrats to Paul. Agree most of the race was boring. A little excitement at the end with Jeff Gordon racing his way to the front.
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Yes congrats to Menard, but man, that race just isn't one of the better ones to watch. I know that IMS holds a bit over 200,000, but it looked really sad on T.V. They need to paint the seats different colors to make it look like a good crowd there......
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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Wow, Menard must have long arms to pull that one from his ....

Seriously, good to see another first time winner, especially at a big time coveted race. Congrat's to Paul and his team. They sure put it all together and hung on when they needed to.
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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It was pretty amazing to see empty seats at a cup race but considering they not only fill all the seats for the 500 and then an additional 50000 infield spots in May, I don't think it's the track's fault.
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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^^Just my personal opinion, but I'd guess the 500 is like the Derby is here. Most "fans" come more for the experience of just being there than the race itself.

As for the empty seats at the 400, could there be a more boring race or track?
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Old 08-01-2011, 12:54 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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^^Just my personal opinion, but I'd guess the 500 is like the Derby is here. Most "fans" come more for the experience of just being there than the race itself.

As for the empty seats at the 400, could there be a more boring race or track?
On Wind Tunnel last night they were advocating getting rid of the infield grass and putting the pavement back so some passing can be done.

To me Indy looks more like a left turn only street circuit, way too narrow in the corners.
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