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Old 06-11-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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So now that the track has been repaved and SAFER barriers have been installed inside and out, the nostalgic part of me would love to see open-wheelers at Pocono again.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:01 AM
 
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it might happen.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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Me too. Bring back the triple crown of 500 milers.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:58 PM
 
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So now that the track has been repaved and SAFER barriers have been installed inside and out, the nostalgic part of me would love to see open-wheelers at Pocono again.
Will this series hang on that long? When will the Hullman/George family run out of money?

I watched part of the race at Texas. A few hundred spectators here...a few hundred there....maybe a thousand somewhere else. But tens and tens of thousands of empty seats wherever I looked.

What an embarrassment for any sponsor who brought guests to watch the race.

And the cars that look like something from the discount shelf at the toy store going round and round and round and...........unless interrupted by another full course yellow.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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Will this series hang on that long? When will the Hullman/George family run out of money?

I watched part of the race at Texas. A few hundred spectators here...a few hundred there....maybe a thousand somewhere else. But tens and tens of thousands of empty seats wherever I looked.

What an embarrassment for any sponsor who brought guests to watch the race.

And the cars that look like something from the discount shelf at the toy store going round and round and round and...........unless interrupted by another full course yellow.
If Chevy, Lotus, and Honda thought IndyCar didn't have a chance they wouldn't be investing untold millions in the series. The next 3-5 years are really make-or-break for IndyCar. With Danica gone the series can focus on the product on the track and not where she's currently running. I think they're going to have to balance the series out with more ovals and one or more of the American drivers need to step it up and be a championship contender otherwise it'll always be F-1 Lite + The Indy 500.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:13 AM
 
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Default Could happen this summer...

The inaugural race in Qingdao, China, has been canceled, and IndyCar is rumored to be looking at Pocono and Texas Motor Speedway to replace it on the schedule.

IndyCar race set for Aug. 19 in China canceled - ESPN
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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The inaugural race in Qingdao, China, has been canceled, and IndyCar is rumored to be looking at Pocono and Texas Motor Speedway to replace it on the schedule.

IndyCar race set for Aug. 19 in China canceled - ESPN
Texas declined.

Texas declines IndyCar season finale option - Racer.com

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"We appreciate IndyCar reaching out to us for that opportunity, but there were numerous issues and obstacles to overcome to successfully promote the event like the past 23 IZOD IndyCar Series events we have hosted here," Gossage said. "Our focus during that fall period ranging from operations to marketing is squarely on the Nov. 1-4 AAA Texas 500 NASCAR tripleheader weekend, especially with it being a key Chase for the NASCAR Sprint Cup race. We couldn't justify dividing resources between the two events to make it happen and it would be an injustice to both due to the scheduling."
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IndyCar CEO Randy Bernard subsequently released a statement saying: "We appreciate Texas Motor Speedway exploring the opportunity with us. We continue to speak with various tracks to find the right venue for our potential 16th race."
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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I thniit may have the same problem of toomuch bankig like all NASCAR designed tracks and therfore be unsafe as it would allow full throotle totally.
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:36 AM
 
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I thniit may have the same problem of toomuch bankig like all NASCAR designed tracks and therfore be unsafe as it would allow full throotle totally.
The turns at Pocono are 14, 9 and 6 degrees.

The Milwaukee Mile is banked at a little over 9, while Indy is banked at 6. The 14 degree banking is at the end of the longest straightaway.....I don't think banking is a problem. The problem with Pocono in the past has been its surface which was just redone and some upgrades in the area of safety which have also been addressed.
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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The turns at Pocono are 14, 9 and 6 degrees.

The Milwaukee Mile is banked at a little over 9, while Indy is banked at 6. The 14 degree banking is at the end of the longest straightaway.....I don't think banking is a problem. The problem with Pocono in the past has been its surface which was just redone and some upgrades in the area of safety which have also been addressed.
Exactly. Pocono's corners are modeled from 3 tracks CART & USAC used to race on - Turn 1 is Trenton Speedway, Turn 2 is Indy, and Turn 3 is Milwaukee. CART left the track after the 1989 race because the track was too bumpy and the outside wall was steel boilerplate. Both of those issues have been addressed, and SAFER barriers have been added inside and out.

I personally think Pocono is a no-brainer. It's fairly close to NY, Philly, and Pittsburgh, and the track could probably put together an IndyCar weekend pretty quickly.
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