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Old 03-18-2014, 10:51 PM
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Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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Nah. This isn't the first year teams have had trouble with rule changes and this year's changes were HUGE. Was it a good race? Not particularly, but it was at least interesting. Give it until May or so to see what shakes out.

As far as the sound of the cars, I thought leaving the 12 cyl engines behind was a bad thing.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:48 PM
 
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Not only where they huge but the recent testing limits meant problems not seen in past. Last year they already had problems that effected races because of limited tire testing. Parelli threatened to drop F1 without more testing and safety wise; reputation wise I don't blame them. What next Catalytic converters and rocket boosters to allow passing?
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:17 PM
 
Location: North York
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They should get rid of the crap to help passing. The only thing they should do is stop giving stupid penalties for drivers having a go and bumping another driver. This isn't NASCAR, it's supposed to be hard. A work of art. A pass in pre-DRS F1 was like watching a hunter stalk his prey. In NASCAR it's like watching one 18 wheeler pass another on a highway.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:18 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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They should get rid of the crap to help passing. The only thing they should do is stop giving stupid penalties for drivers having a go and bumping another driver. This isn't NASCAR, it's supposed to be hard. A work of art. A pass in pre-DRS F1 was like watching a hunter stalk his prey. In NASCAR it's like watching one 18 wheeler pass another on a highway.
If F1 is supposed to be the top level of racing why is it necessary to constantly bash NASCAR?

What make F1 fans so jealous of NASCAR?

Is it the amount of different leaders in every race?

Is it the amount of passing in every race?

Is it the amount of different winners during the season? (21 last year)

Something about NASCAR bothers F1 fans yet most of us NASCAR fans could care less about F1.

You enjoy it good for you.

BTW, F1 was easier for Montoya than NASCAR was.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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If F1 is supposed to be the top level of racing why is it necessary to constantly bash NASCAR?

What make F1 fans so jealous of NASCAR?

Is it the amount of different leaders in every race?

Is it the amount of passing in every race?

Is it the amount of different winners during the season? (21 last year)

Something about NASCAR bothers F1 fans yet most of us NASCAR fans could care less about F1.

You enjoy it good for you.

BTW, F1 was easier for Montoya than NASCAR was.

I gave up on NASCAR when they took away points earned on the race track for something a driver said in the winner's circle. That's BS, pure and simple.

I liked NASCAR much better when they raced cars based on real stock cars that didn't need a decal on them to identify what they allegedly were and you couldn't lose race points for something you said..
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:37 AM
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Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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The entire rest of the forum can be used for NASCAR. Please leave it out there, where I don't have to read it. This is for F1.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, Va
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I miss the 2004 - 05 days when I started watching F1 every race teams would bring a new aero mod. I remember Newey's designs with Mclaren. If the new regulation is made for F1 cars to be more economic (reduce engine capacity) Why ban aero mods on the car?
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:45 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I miss the 2004 - 05 days when I started watching F1 every race teams would bring a new aero mod. I remember Newey's designs with Mclaren. If the new regulation is made for F1 cars to be more economic (reduce engine capacity) Why ban aero mods on the car?
While I don't really believe anything's been made more economical by regulation, as far as aero goes, 24/7 wind-tunnel time certainly isn't cheap.
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Old 03-23-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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I think these new cars are awesome, they actually require a lot of skill to drive. Knock aero grip down, add a bunch of torque and turbo's and give the kers system more power and battery and let them have at it.

I think the cars sound awesome, this isn't the first time turbo's have been in f1.
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Old 03-24-2014, 06:32 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I think these new cars are awesome, they actually require a lot of skill to drive. Knock aero grip down, add a bunch of torque and turbo's and give the kers system more power and battery and let them have at it.

I think the cars sound awesome, this isn't the first time turbo's have been in f1.
While I agree with lowering aero grip/raising power to make driver skill a bigger part of the equation I'd like to see the complicated KERS system eliminated. It's a racing formula and I see no need to make it appear 'green' with energy recovery systems, many modern road cars with traction control, ABS, etc. are in that way loaded with more technology than F1, let them take the lead in energy recovery as well. The lost power can easily be replaced with a displacement increase for F1.
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