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Old 04-03-2014, 02:06 PM
 
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I remember attending a couple of USAC Silver Crown races at Flemington, NJ and Nazareth, PA back in the early 80s. There were at least 3 or 4 Indy 500 vets in the fields back then. If you look at it, when USAC was no longer sanctioning Indy, is when the real disconnect started. Fast forward to the 90s and I think the original premise of the IRL (Indycar) was good, but very poorly executed.

But, i think Indycar is heading in the right direction, ugly cars or not. I hate that its basically spec racing, but what major series isnt anymore? Its so darn expensive. But if you attend an event it's very fan friendly and relatively not that expensive to attend as a fan. I have attended more Indycar races the last 5 years (4) than I have NASCAR (0).
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:02 PM
 
Location: North York
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You can take IndyCar out of the irl but you can't take the irl out of IndyCar.

Good job Mr Hunter-Reay.. The good thing about his bone headed "pass" was seeing the lessor Andretti looking like he just ate a lemon while holding in a fart...

Honourable mention to Bobby Jr. Ain't nepotism great? Hey Graham, before you go all Andretti on us and whine on the radio that you didn't do anything wrong, please remember that you are carrying an in car camera... dumbass..

Last, but not least. Thank you Tony George, the man born on third base but thinks he hit a triple, for bringing us this abortion masquerading as IndyCar.

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Old 04-14-2014, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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I missed the race again because I had a race of my own.
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Old 04-14-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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I tried to watch a few laps and it was more of the same old, same old. Ugly cars plodding around. Castroneves is a phoney. (Jimmy Vasser once listed him as one of his favourite actors.)

Open wheel racing in North America is dead. Thanks Tony.
Don't ever believe that times don't change and a image is as important in racing has other sports.This isn't the day when whether a actor or race driver or any other you can hide your deeds. You have to spend more time cultivating a image others did for you in the past by influence. It requires large sponsored dollars and sponsors want more than just winning a race for their dollars.
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Old 04-14-2014, 01:55 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Indy car racing is dying because all the good young drivers want to race NASCAR. Doesn't matter if you hate NASCAR but all racing is a show and NASCAR puts on the best show. More different winners, many lead changes, drivers starting in the back and still able to win races. That almost never happens in open wheel racing.
You can call stock cars outdated taxi cabs if you like but that fact remains that they still put on a better show than any open wheel serious.

There was a time when NASCAR teams were dragging around the country to any track that would have them beat up cars that looked like they came out of the junk yards.

If you don't have 20-50M don't even think about being a team owner. Then you need sponsors.

I was an Indy car fan years back and went to every race in my area and cheered on AJ Foyt and later Mario Andretti but those days of great open wheel racing are gone , except for the INDY 500 and that doesn't sell out like it once did.

Blaming Tony George is stupid if you want to blame somebody for the demise of open wheel, blame Bill France.
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Old 04-14-2014, 05:07 PM
 
Location: North York
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I disagree. Do you honestly think that if back in 1994 Tony George didn't throw his tantrum IndyCar would be in the death throws it is in now? Hardly. All you have to do is to look at the ratings and attendance for the 1996 Indy 500. They plummeted.

Bill France, and to a degree Bernie Ecclestone share a bit of the responsibility of the death of IndyCar. But it was the one man who decided to 'fix' IndyCar. Tony George is responsible for killing one of the most exciting racing series the world has ever seen. To think otherwise is delusional.
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Old 04-15-2014, 06:37 AM
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I disagree. Do you honestly think that if back in 1994 Tony George didn't throw his tantrum IndyCar would be in the death throws it is in now? Hardly. All you have to do is to look at the ratings and attendance for the 1996 Indy 500. They plummeted.

Bill France, and to a degree Bernie Ecclestone share a bit of the responsibility of the death of IndyCar. But it was the one man who decided to 'fix' IndyCar. Tony George is responsible for killing one of the most exciting racing series the world has ever seen. To think otherwise is delusional.
Thanks for letting me know I am delusional because I disagree with you.

You pretty new here so rather than read any more of your drivel I am sending you right to my ignore list, probably the fastest to the list.
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Lots of rain in Alabama. Anybody watching?
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Old 04-27-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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I missed it again because I had another race.
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Old 04-27-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Hunter-Reay beats Marco Andretti under caution in rather wet conditions.
Hunter-Reay makes it two wins in a row at Barber

Kind of boring, and must have been maddening for those in back of the leaders. Very low visibility.
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