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Old 07-31-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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How does Pocono even get 2 NCSC races a year? And those two races are way too close together. It really is a boring track no matter the series.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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How does Pocono even get 2 NCSC races a year? And those two races are way too close together. It really is a boring track no matter the series.
I like Pocono, but wouldn't be opposed to them dropping one of the dates as long as they dump 1 each from Michigan and Loudon, too.
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Old 08-01-2014, 06:14 AM
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How does Pocono even get 2 NCSC races a year? And those two races are way too close together. It really is a boring track no matter the series.
The reason Pocono has two races so close together is because in that area of the Poconos you only have two months of decent weather. I have been there in June and you freeze your nuts off in the morning.

But you are right they should dump one of those dates and come back to Rockingham, NC where the real Nascar fans live. Just don't try to run a race here in the winter.
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Old 08-01-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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It seriously makes no sense that Pocono gets two cup races. If I put on my tin foil hat, I begin to wonder about what sort of transactions are going on behind the scene. I am curious if the family who runs/operates Pocono is connected to organized crime in any way.
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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The reason Pocono has two races so close together is because in that area of the Poconos you only have two months of decent weather. I have been there in June and you freeze your nuts off in the morning.

But you are right they should dump one of those dates and come back to Rockingham, NC where the real Nascar fans live. Just don't try to run a race here in the winter.
i agree, in fact i think nascar needs to go back to having the old bull rings on their schedule. when i first started watching nascar, the only races televised were the big tracks. later when more races were televised, i didnt like the short tracks at first, but i grew to actually like them, and was disappointed at their passing for the most part.
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:18 PM
 
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It seriously makes no sense that Pocono gets two cup races. If I put on my tin foil hat, I begin to wonder about what sort of transactions are going on behind the scene. I am curious if the family who runs/operates Pocono is connected to organized crime in any way.
Sheesh.

There are two reasons:

1) Anti-Trust. NASCAR is basically run by the France family and they also control ISC, which owns the most tracks that holds NASCAR races. Because of this conflict, the France family and ISC can basically screw a lot of tracks out of races. But if they do so, they'll likely be sued for anti-trust violations because the race tracks will lose a lot of their value. SMI is another big race track company and they have the funds to sue ISC and NASCAR for years and the tens of millions of dollars it would be necessary to win an anti-trust suit. So ISC and NASCAR sort of have an unstated rule that tracks with historical races will keep them, unless their owners want to move their races. So if a track wants another NASCAR race, they have to buy an existing track with one and move the race (i.e. Rockingham).

2) Loyalty. NASCAR used to be all short tracks and a lot of them were on dirt. They wanted track owners to build superspeedways, but they were too expensive and had little utility outside of the NASCAR races. The family that owns Pocono were one of the early builders of a superspeedway for NASCAR and the only one above the Mason-Dixon line for a while. They almost went bankrupt several times back when NASCAR needed big tracks. Part of the unwritten agreement back then was if you build a superspeedway, NASCAR would give you 2 or more races (this is back when they had 50-60 races on the schedule, while only 5-6 were superspeedways). NASCAR isn't going to destroy one of the early supporters of NASCAR (Pocono is still family owned) to put a race in another corporate track race. If that family sells to ISC, SMI or another big corporation, NASCAR would be OK with moving those races if they wanted to. Also, the owners of Pocono were big supporters of the France family for generations and the France family still has a tremendous amount of influence on NASCAR.
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