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Old 06-26-2017, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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Really enjoy the road courses. The drivers have gotten a lot better on them over the years.
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Old 06-26-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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The FOX coverage has ended for the season.


I was pleased with it and thought Jeff Gordon was a great addition.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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Can somebody explain to me why.........NASCAR has two TV deals ? It makes no sense to me.


On a slightly different angle.... I would have loved to hear the behind the closed door conversation between Danica and her "very close friend " after the latest crash. Why do sponsors continue to back drivers that finish so far back that they can't be seen when the checkered flag waves ?


Not just number 10, but some of the back of the track guys who finish 30th or worse week after week. I can understand a newbie not being a front runner, but with more than 5 years in the top oval track series... and never in the top 10 ? Number 95, looking at you....


Jim B.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Can somebody explain to me why.........NASCAR has two TV deals ? It makes no sense to me.


On a slightly different angle.... I would have loved to hear the behind the closed door conversation between Danica and her "very close friend " after the latest crash. Why do sponsors continue to back drivers that finish so far back that they can't be seen when the checkered flag waves ?


Not just number 10, but some of the back of the track guys who finish 30th or worse week after week. I can understand a newbie not being a front runner, but with more than 5 years in the top oval track series... and never in the top 10 ? Number 95, looking at you....




Jim B.
More $$$ for NASACR

38 cars in that race.............some have to finish in the back.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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More $$$ for NASACR

38 cars in that race.............some have to finish in the back.
You missed the part about.........."week after week".....


I believe he was referring to the same drivers.
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Old 06-26-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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Can somebody explain to me why.........NASCAR has two TV deals ? It makes no sense to me.


On a slightly different angle.... I would have loved to hear the behind the closed door conversation between Danica and her "very close friend " after the latest crash. Why do sponsors continue to back drivers that finish so far back that they can't be seen when the checkered flag waves ?


Not just number 10, but some of the back of the track guys who finish 30th or worse week after week. I can understand a newbie not being a front runner, but with more than 5 years in the top oval track series... and never in the top 10 ? Number 95, looking at you....


Jim B.
tv contracts can be contentious issues between networks. tv contracts can also get very expensive, and with three divisions to cover, it makes sense for fox to buy some events and someone else to buy the other events. saves the networks money, and gives coverage to all the events.

as for the other question, remember that nascar fans tend to be very loyal to sponsors, even on back marker cars. and these sponsors put up money to be on the car, its advertising you know. but it also buys access to nascar drivers, and these drivers make personal appearances for the sponsor all year long.

the back marker cars deals are less than that of say kevin harvick or kyle busch since they run up front most of the time. where harvicks team might get a sponsorship of say $25 million for the season, a back marker like say jj yeley would get closer to $10-12 million for the season. either way the sponsor gets personal appearances, a show car at the event in question, the driver making a commercial or several, etc.
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Old 06-26-2017, 09:15 PM
 
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You missed the part about.........."week after week".....


I believe he was referring to the same drivers.
I think NASCAR wants a large field of contestants and pays well for the usual last 10 or 12 cars to show up. So it is a form of income for them in an interesting area.
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Old 06-26-2017, 09:23 PM
 
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tv contracts can be contentious issues between networks. tv contracts can also get very expensive, and with three divisions to cover, it makes sense for fox to buy some events and someone else to buy the other events. saves the networks money, and gives coverage to all the events.

as for the other question, remember that nascar fans tend to be very loyal to sponsors, even on back marker cars. and these sponsors put up money to be on the car, its advertising you know. but it also buys access to nascar drivers, and these drivers make personal appearances for the sponsor all year long.

the back marker cars deals are less than that of say kevin harvick or kyle busch since they run up front most of the time. where harvicks team might get a sponsorship of say $25 million for the season, a back marker like say jj yeley would get closer to $10-12 million for the season. either way the sponsor gets personal appearances, a show car at the event in question, the driver making a commercial or several, etc.
Speaking of TV deals - I don't think the next batch will be nearly as lucrative as past ones have been due in large part to all the bloodletting in cable/network TV. I really don't think they'll overpay for NASCAR again (because thanks to cord-cutting they can't afford to). The track owners have turned a blind eye to dwindling gate receipts because their bottom line is being propped up by the TV money. If that dries up I'm betting you'll see a shift to pay-per-view and a serious contraction of the schedule.
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Old 06-27-2017, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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They definitely won't get the same kind of deal, that's for sure, but some network will take a flyer at a discounted rate. Maybe a cable network instead of the big 4. PPV would kill nascar.
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Old 06-27-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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Can somebody explain to me why.........NASCAR has two TV deals ? It makes no sense to me.
On a slightly different angle.... I would have loved to hear the behind the closed door conversation between Danica and her "very close friend " after the latest crash. Why do sponsors continue to back drivers that finish so far back that they can't be seen when the checkered flag waves ?
<>Jim B.
The split season probably relates to NBC and Fox contracts with other sports so that there is a calendar consideration for when air time is available.

As for the crowd that makes up the field but has no hope of winning, there are some people with money who just enjoy racing for the fun of it and they are able to field a car with their own money and enjoy it.
Some drivers are able to bring a sponsor or money with them and get to race at the top level of NASCAR, Indy, or Formula One, just because they are good enough to stay within 125% of the leaders lap times and have a lot of fun doing it. I think most of the field of the sports racing road racers are like that.
There are sponsors who are checking things out and can't afford, or don't want to spend, for a big name.

BTW, until the crashes, Danica was running well, I think in the lead pack up to 6th place?
"It's a good thing"
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