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Old 07-24-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Brickyard 400 attendance dropped another 30%. Crowd was estimated at 35,000. If you're playing along at home that means 90% of the seats were empty.

EDIT: My bad. If you only count permanent seating (250k), the stands were 86% empty. Total capacity, though, is around 400k.

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Old 07-24-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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For a woman to make it in NASCAR like Cha-cha Muldowny did in NHRA you not only have to be tough both on and off the track but you have to WIN. They couldn't ignore her after she started repeatedly kicking their butts in qualifiers and then winning events.

Danica has been finishing better and better as of late which is good but a win (or two) or constantly placing in the top 10 would rocket her up to the elite level. She's GOT to find a way to stop being a target that others always seem to hit, taking her out of the race.
She's left more races for things not of her own doing than anyone I've ever seen, it's almost like someone or something is targeting her saying "oh no you don't missy"...
i dont agree that a woman has to win races, or even a championship to be accepted in nascar, but she does have to do a lot better than danica is doing right now.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:34 PM
 
Location: CT
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Brickyard 400 attendance dropped another 30%. Crowd was estimated at 35,000. If you're playing along at home that means 90% of the seats were empty.

EDIT: My bad. If you only count permanent seating (250k), the stands were 86% empty. Total capacity, though, is around 400k.
Some of it's the summer Indiana weather, who wants to roast for three to four hours? So, maybe moving the race to September will help the Brickyard attendance. I think the bigger attendance vector is retirement of a lot of the veteran drivers that attracted crowds. Had to happen sooner or later.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Some of it's the summer Indiana weather, who wants to roast for three to four hours? So, maybe moving the race to September will help the Brickyard attendance. I think the bigger attendance vector is retirement of a lot of the veteran drivers that attracted crowds. Had to happen sooner or later.
I disagree. The weather angle doesn't explain why 250,000-350,000 came to the race from 1995-2007. It was just as hot then. The weather is nothing more than a convenient excuse.

The quality of the Brickyard 400's "racing" has pretty much sucked since day one. The race has lived off the novelty of the venue, but that novelty has worn off. The only people who think that this race is a "crown jewel" are the drivers and the powers that be at NASCAR HQ. At this point the Indy Lights race probably has higher attendance numbers than the Brickyard 400. The fans have proven they couldn't care less if the race is ever run again.

I personally think a significant schedule reduction is in NASCAR's best interests, and the Brickyard should be one of the races that gets axed.

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Old 07-24-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Gray Court, SC
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Knew this was coming.

Dale Earnhardt Jr. to join NBC broadcast team after season
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Old 07-24-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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.@NBC earned a 3.3 overnight for yesterday's #Brickyard400 @IMS. That's up 18% from a 2.8 for last year's race, though that was on @NBCSN.
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Old 07-25-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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I agree the Brickyard race needs to be cut. It's never any good and clearly no one cares to watch it.

Keselowski resigns with Penske, so he's not going anywhere. Makes sense. Jr at NBC already guarantees the quality will go up a notch but probably not enough. Gawd that coverage is bad and all those commercials are mind boggling.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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Jeff Burton on NBC has been disappointing.

I expected much more of the "mayor" of NASCAR. Always liked him.

But he talks too long and too fast as an announcer. Actually in today's world the announcers all talk too much.

Baseball too......jerky announcers are ruining some of the games.
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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Few more pieces fell today..

Menard moves to Wood Brothers with the sponsorship. Blaney moves to Penske in the resurrected #12

Childress says he's staying at 3 teams, but no announcement on sponsorship.

So.. I presume Penske buys a charter from someone. Perhaps Roush? I think the #16 was leased this year. Yeah, to JTG's second team, so they either have to use it (Said they won't) or sell it.
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Old 07-27-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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I disagree. The weather angle doesn't explain why 250,000-350,000 came to the race from 1995-2007. It was just as hot then. The weather is nothing more than a convenient excuse.

The quality of the Brickyard 400's "racing" has pretty much sucked since day one. The race has lived off the novelty of the venue, but that novelty has worn off. The only people who think that this race is a "crown jewel" are the drivers and the powers that be at NASCAR HQ. At this point the Indy Lights race probably has higher attendance numbers than the Brickyard 400. The fans have proven they couldn't care less if the race is ever run again.

I personally think a significant schedule reduction is in NASCAR's best interests, and the Brickyard should be one of the races that gets axed.
Fair enough, you could be right, but we'd agree NASCAR is losing it's luster of the 80's and 90's. They keep trying different things like this stage racing, it doesn't add to the race. If I go to a local track, it's pretty straight forward, get to the front and cross the finish line, it's exciting to watch. Small local tracks don't have room for "filler" cars to keep a team on the track, and they don't have room for guys that would never win, everyone has a shot, everyone is racing for a win.
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