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Old 11-01-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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ESPN would be foolish not to bring Hobbs and Matchett back and I'd be very happy if they added Varsha to the team, those three were my favorite race broadcast team ever and that's going back to watching an an hour and twenty minutes of Sumo wrestling and Tiddlywinks to see ten minutes of Monaco on Wide World of Sports.

Of course if James Hunt was still with us I'd be happy to have his commentary as well.
Agreed! Hobbs, Matchett, and Varsha were a joy to listen to. They made me watch races I was so-so about.

From the awfully written CNN but news anyway.

Formula One unveils plans for new louder engines - CNN
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:02 AM
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Location: The beautiful Rogue Valley, Oregon
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Streaming feed does not work for me personally. I like my F1 with a hot cup of coffee and a doughnut at Sunday midmorning.
Yes, much as I like F1, I am not getting up at 3 or 4 am to watch the majority of races. I need to be able to record for watching later - and WITHOUT going up on a website that will spoil the race results.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Agreed! Hobbs, Matchett, and Varsha were a joy to listen to. They made me watch races I was so-so about.

From the awfully written CNN but news anyway.

Formula One unveils plans for new louder engines - CNN
It should say "Liberty Media proposes new engine plan for Formula 1." It's only a proposal.

Mercedes if very much against it. Previously Ferrari said the power units should remain very complicated. The lower budget teams are very much for it.

There will be many more meetings.

Liberty Media is learning that it's not easy to "make F1 better for the fans."
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Agreed! Hobbs, Matchett, and Varsha were a joy to listen to. They made me watch races I was so-so about.

From the awfully written CNN but news anyway.

Formula One unveils plans for new louder engines - CNN

Disappointing to hear they're keeping the V-6s, IMO it should be up to the engine builders whether they choose one whopping big single or a V-16, and personally, I wish they'd drop the hybrid part of the program and go to a pure IC engine. They say they want to control cost and I have to believe dropping the hybrid requirement would immediately slash cost a good bit.

Now that I think of it I'd like to hear F1's justification for having cars so potentially dangerous the crew must radio a driver with instructions on how to exit a failed car as was the case with Hulkenberg recently. What happens should the radio fail? Many years ago there was a well known race car tagged Ol' Yeller, I'd really hate to see the day one becomes known as Ol' Sparky.

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Old 11-03-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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Yes, much as I like F1, I am not getting up at 3 or 4 am to watch the majority of races. I need to be able to record for watching later - and WITHOUT going up on a website that will spoil the race results.
I always record the races so i can ff through the boring bits which happens to be most of the race. takes me about 20 minutes to watch an f1 race.
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Old 11-03-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I always record the races so i can ff through the boring bits which happens to be most of the race. takes me about 20 minutes to watch an f1 race.
So what is your source for all the background information and behind the scenes activities? If you don't hear about it the sport is no more interesting than beach volleyball = something nice to look at.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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Disappointing to hear they're keeping the V-6s, IMO it should be up to the engine builders whether they choose one whopping big single or a V-16, and personally, I wish they'd drop the hybrid part of the program and go to a pure IC engine. They say they want to control cost and I have to believe dropping the hybrid requirement would immediately slash cost a good bit.
The problem is, ICE's are on the way out. Manufacturers want to develop electric drive. An F1 car with only an ICE is like a stock car with a carbureted V8 (yes, I know they run EFI now. 20 years after everyone's street car had it).

As much as I miss the V10 days, the hybrid stuff is what keeps the series relevant, as far as the manufacturers are concerned. There's a reason they are crawling all over Formula E.
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Old 11-04-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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The problem is, ICE's are on the way out. Manufacturers want to develop electric drive. An F1 car with only an ICE is like a stock car with a carbureted V8 (yes, I know they run EFI now. 20 years after everyone's street car had it).

As much as I miss the V10 days, the hybrid stuff is what keeps the series relevant, as far as the manufacturers are concerned. There's a reason they are crawling all over Formula E.


Looking at boating and aviation, I don't see ICEs going the way of the Dodo anytime soon. And if relevance to road cars is to be a driving force to F1 regs, why are things like ABS, traction control, et al, common in road cars, banned in F1?

I can see endurance racing being a great proving ground for hybrids but with GPs limited to a 2 hour duration it really doesn't seem much of a test. We already have FormulaE, I think we need to keep a class where racing is its number one purpose and there's no pretense of anything else..
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Old 11-04-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Looking at boating and aviation, I don't see ICEs going the way of the Dodo anytime soon<>
I can see endurance racing being a great proving ground for hybrids but with GPs limited to a 2 hour duration it really doesn't seem much of a test.<>
All good points in the discussion.
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Old 11-08-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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Give it time. I didn't say it'd happen overnight.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...-times-goodbye
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