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Old 06-11-2017, 03:04 PM
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Lol, Force India, faced with the novel concept of maybe being on the podium, let alone scoring points with both cars, blows a team decision.

My, my, I bet that was a testy garage immediately after the race.
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Old 06-11-2017, 04:01 PM
 
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Lol, Force India, faced with the novel concept of maybe being on the podium, let alone scoring points with both cars, blows a team decision.

My, my, I bet that was a testy garage immediately after the race.

Yeah, but scoring more points than everyone but Mercedes is still a pretty good result for them.
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Old 06-12-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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A good result, yes but a gong show of racing. They set up the race strat perfectly then blow it. Perez looks like a jackass after that one.

Patrick Stewart drinking out of a shoe was the highlight. haha Seriously, that was gross.
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Old 06-12-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Lol, Force India, faced with the novel concept of maybe being on the podium, let alone scoring points with both cars, blows a team decision.

My, my, I bet that was a testy garage immediately after the race.
They have had 4 podiums in the last 3 season. None of them involved team orders. They should keep letting them race, seems to have worked for them so far.
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Old 06-12-2017, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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A good result, yes but a gong show of racing. They set up the race strat perfectly then blow it. Perez looks like a jackass after that one.

Patrick Stewart drinking out of a shoe was the highlight. haha Seriously, that was gross.
I'm not following this newfound love for team orders... I guess it's just that the driver who didn't want them is not that popular. When Max did it at Singapore a couple of years ago he was called nothing short of a genius and a free racing spirit.

If Ocon wants to beat Perez he can start by passing him, or qualifying ahead.
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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In this case team orders are because of different strats, Perez needed to heed that and move over. He was clearly holding Ocon up and allowed the Ferrari's to close up. This wasn't a case of the number two driver being told to move over for the number one driver like in the past.
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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In this case team orders are because of different strats, Perez needed to heed that and move over. He was clearly holding Ocon up and allowed the Ferrari's to close up. This wasn't a case of the number two driver being told to move over for the number one driver like in the past.
He was racing him. They were both on a 1 stop strategy. He got the crappy one after outqualifying and outracing his teammate in the first stint, why would a team order be fair? I would have gotten it if Ocon was on a two stop strategy and needed clean air to make it work, but that wasn't the case.
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Old 06-13-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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Put Verstappen in a Mercedes/Ferrari and he's a Top 2 lock for the next 15 years.
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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Put Verstappen in a Mercedes/Ferrari and he's a Top 2 lock for the next 15 years.
Yes. That kid is special. Hope Renault gets its crap together... Imagine watching Vettel vs Hamilton vs Verstappen/Ricciardo ... would be amazing.
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Old 06-13-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Put Verstappen in a Mercedes/Ferrari and he's a Top 2 lock for the next 15 years.
Until McLaren or Renault or someone else gets a competitive engine/chassis combo, what team's stayed on top for 15 years in F1?
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