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Old 02-19-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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2017 Daytona 500 Qualifier Format:

59th Daytona 500 qualifying:
Qualifying for the Daytona 500 is scheduled for 3:10 p.m. ET on Sunday, Feb. 19 on Fox, but only the front row will be set through the first round of Daytona's unique qualifying format. The front row will be determined through single-lap time-trial runs, with the rest of the field to be set through the Duel qualifying races on Feb. 23.

The qualifying format for the Daytona 500 is unique and can be a bit confusing. However, the folks at NASCAR.com have done a pretty good job of breaking down the multi-stage process. We'll summarize the format here.

On Sunday, the first two positions in the race—the front row—will be determined via single-car qualifying. There will be two rounds here, with the 12 fastest cars from Round 1 advancing to Round 2. The two fastest cars in the second round will earn the No. 1 and No. 2 spots at Daytona.

The Can-Am Duels also feature two rounds of qualifying, and these will determine slots 3-38 for Daytona. The qualifying cars from the first Duel will line up on the inside row in the Daytona 500, while the qualifiers from the second Duel will line up on the outside row for the race.

The last two spots for the race will be given to the top two top open teams from the single-car stage that didn't qualify in the Can-Am Duels.

This will make up the 40-car field for Daytona.

New Race Rules

There are some interesting new rules surrounding the Daytona 500 this season. As will be the case with all races in the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series this year, there will be three stages to the actual race, with points being awarded after each.
Kenny Bruce of NASCAR.com does an excellent job of breaking down how the point system will work with multiple stages:

Upon the completion of each of the first two stages, drivers finishing first through 10th will be awarded additional points (10th for first, nine for second, etc.) that will be included in their final total for that race only. Additionally, one point per stage win will be awarded to those drivers qualifying for the 10-race playoff at the end of the season. Race-winning drivers also will earn five bonus points per win to be applied following the completion of the regular season.
For Daytona, there will be two 60-lap stages, followed by an 80-lap final stage.

According to NASCAR senior vice president Scott Miller, Daytona's stages were specifically set at 40 percent, 40 percent and 60 percent in order to play to the excitement of the race.

"We had to kind of set the stages to where they landed as far away from a fuel window as they possibly could—so the teams could either make it to the stage finish or guaranteed that they would have to stop before they made it to the stage finish so we wouldn't turn these races into fuel-mileage races," Miller explained, per Bob Pockrass of ESPN. com.

Other new rules at Daytona this year impact how cars can be repaired during the race. Cars may no longer go to the garage to fix damage. Instead, they're given a five–minute window to fix damage on pit road. If repairs take longer than five minutes or require more than six crew members to fix the damage, the car will be pulled from the race.

New body components, such as panels, will not be allowed to be used. Cars will be allowed to visit the repair garage to fix mechanical or electrical issues that were not the result of a collision.
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Old 02-20-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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All Hendrick front row again....24 (pole) and 88!
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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does Mac's Famous Bar still open at 7 am?
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Old 04-01-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: California
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Default RULES of 2017 Daytona 500

I don't like the segments and the repair rule. I like racing may the best car and/or driver win.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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Stage racing has been a HUGE success so far.

Every single race has been very good this year. Drivers are no longer settling to run 18-25th for the bulk of the race and then making their move towards the front later in the race. They are racing hard the entire race because of the stage points. Interesting strategies every race too as they try to position themselves for the bonus points. I also like the way they are doing the "playoff points" how they carry throughout the entire chase up until the very last race. Having the points reset with no points for winning carrying after the first round was something I really hated.

I haven't been a fan of most of the changes they seem to want to make every season or two, but IMO this one is a winner.

As for the repair rule, I don't really have much of an opinion one way or the other. I don't really get the point of it.
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Old 04-03-2017, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island
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I am not a fan of the segments, having to worry about tires, cautions and fuel just to win portions of the race seems to take pure racing out of the equation. Now it is all about positioning rather than risking it all to win the race. Not looking forward to Watkins Glen where foolishness early in the race could take out some really good drivers.

I am a dinosaur though and if these changes can bring another generation of fans on board then its cool with me...............I have to say I do like the umbrella girls
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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I am not a fan of the segments, having to worry about tires, cautions and fuel just to win portions of the race seems to take pure racing out of the equation. Now it is all about positioning rather than risking it all to win the race. Not looking forward to Watkins Glen where foolishness early in the race could take out some really good drivers.

I am a dinosaur though and if these changes can bring another generation of fans on board then its cool with me...............I have to say I do like the umbrella girls

Could you clarify?

I am sometimes obtuse, but I cannot fathom how any of that "takes pure racing out of the equation" or leads any driver to not "risk it all to win the race".

When the 2nd segment is done there is still over half of the race remaining.

It seems to me like these guys are now racing hard throughout the whole race instead of just for the last quarter of it.

For the record, this was something the drivers specifically asked for. Their concern was that if you dominate a race all day and then someone wrecks you with 20 to go, you are likely finishing in the 30s. That doesn't reflect the dominant day you actually had. So NASCAR came up with this format, which does exactly what it was designed to do and then some. Now if you lead the race all day and then hit the wall late, you still could get a decent amount of points for your great showing most of the race. That directly addressed the driver's issue, and it created this urgency throughout the race which, imo, has made for 6 very very entertaining races so far.
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Old 04-04-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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So far I think the new rule is working. It is forcing drivers to race early which isn't a bad thing.
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Old 04-04-2017, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island
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Could you clarify?

I am sometimes obtuse, but I cannot fathom how any of that "takes pure racing out of the equation" or leads any driver to not "risk it all to win the race".

When the 2nd segment is done there is still over half of the race remaining.

It seems to me like these guys are now racing hard throughout the whole race instead of just for the last quarter of it.

For the record, this was something the drivers specifically asked for. Their concern was that if you dominate a race all day and then someone wrecks you with 20 to go, you are likely finishing in the 30s. That doesn't reflect the dominant day you actually had. So NASCAR came up with this format, which does exactly what it was designed to do and then some. Now if you lead the race all day and then hit the wall late, you still could get a decent amount of points for your great showing most of the race. That directly addressed the driver's issue, and it created this urgency throughout the race which, imo, has made for 6 very very entertaining races so far.
Hey I admitted I am a dinosaur and it is just my opinion. If it helps declining ratings and fills the seats then by all means bring it on.

I think some of us boomers are tired of all the changes. Tire wear, track surfaces, extremely fragile cars and so many technical restrictions...........I really don't give a flying flip that they now have enough electronics to track the speed of a fly on pit road. Now we have these segments and all they are is short sprints which increase the chances for damage really early on in the race. For NASCAR who boasted of driver safety and cracking down on fights and retaliation this is quite a reversal as they are now doing everything possible to stimulate wrecks and hot tempers.

People are tired of watching extremely long races and the answer to save these behometh speedways was to break the racing into segments in hopes of keeping viewers attention. Why not throw a few more road courses in which most speedways have already the ability to configure and lets get real old school.......two races on a dirt track if that is all possible.


From initial reports it has helped bring excitement but ratings and seats are still in decline......bottom line it is tougher to keep fans focused longer than an hour now a days.


Like I said what ever is good for the sports long term viability is good with me.
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