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Old 02-26-2017, 03:54 PM
 
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Daytona 500 was a great mess. crash after crash, all day.
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Old 02-26-2017, 03:57 PM
 
Location: alabama.
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wait !! there`s still time for 2 or 3 more wrecks ....unless it`s on tape delay ...
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Old 02-26-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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restrictor plate racing is a different animal from nonrestrictor plate racing. with restrictor plates the field is grouped together in one large pack where on small mistake can take out a number of cars.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:55 AM
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Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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restrictor plate racing is a different animal from nonrestrictor plate racing. with restrictor plates the field is grouped together in one large pack where on small mistake can take out a number of cars.
IOW, plate racing sux! There are better ways (harder tires aero, etc.) to slow cars down, power can often get someone out of trouble and eliminating the plates would eliminate the costs of a separate engine program.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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IOW, plate racing sux! There are better ways (harder tires aero, etc.) to slow cars down, power can often get someone out of trouble and eliminating the plates would eliminate the costs of a separate engine program.
this is something we actually agree on. in fact my way of slowing the cars down would be to take away much of the aero devices, and make the teams from something like a 5.88 gear at daytona and talledega. that way if they wanted to build an engine that would turn 12,000rpm all day long to run around 200mph, then more power to them. but at 8000rpm they would be in the 170 range.
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Old 10-13-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Pac. NW
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Well, watching guys crash out is still better than the 80's when they just limped into the pits with blown engines. Half the field was gone by the mid point from equipment failure. It was beyond annoying to see the gimpy equipment getting lapped like they were sitting still. And at least they don't try to race for points with sawed off fenders anymore.
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Old 10-14-2017, 07:17 AM
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Well, watching guys crash out is still better than the 80's when they just limped into the pits with blown engines. Half the field was gone by the mid point from equipment failure. It was beyond annoying to see the gimpy equipment getting lapped like they were sitting still. And at least they don't try to race for points with sawed off fenders anymore.
Improved metallurgy/technology has eliminates a lot of engine issues and if I want to watch guys crash out I can go to a DemoDerby.
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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IOW, plate racing sux! There are better ways (harder tires aero, etc.) to slow cars down, power can often get someone out of trouble and eliminating the plates would eliminate the costs of a separate engine program.
Getting rid of the banking in the turns would help too. Instead of ~31 degrees, maybe 15-20 degrees. The ultimate goal is to get the guys to back off the throttle in the turns, because the car won't make it if the driver stays WOT. Flat footing it around the track is boring.

Killing the aero would help too, as long as they keep that for every track. The splitter definitely needs to go, and create some space between the air dam and the ground. Maybe even narrower tires. The cars don't need to be nailed to the ground, leave that for Indycar and Formula 1.
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Old 10-15-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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What a snooze-fest this is.
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