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Old 04-08-2018, 06:22 PM
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So was ESPN just trying to make up to viewers are is this a new thing? Qualifying was broadcast without commercials. Which, really, there are a ton of openings in Qualy for commercials - the wait in between sessions, the first lap or two of a session, the stretch when the cars are headed for parc ferme, etc.

Lol, a good qualifying effort for Honda, relatively speaking.

Pretty good race effort too!

Vettel's wasn't too shabby either.
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Old 04-09-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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Interesting race. I can't believe there were no commercials! That was awesome. Really made watching so much better. I like the announcing team. The lead guy tends to get too excited and talk too fast and loudly, and over Brundle a lot, but otherwise pretty solid. Vettel certainly pulled off a good win. Thought he might be done for with 2 laps to go but Bottas overcooked a corner.

The crew guy getting hit was pretty bad. Ferrari needs to fix that stuff.

That halo, whoa. From the side it's actually fairly slick but straight on and the cockpit view...that thing is hideous. I'm surprised the drivers are cross-eyed with that in their vision.
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Old 04-09-2018, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Speaking of groveling before political correctness, you probably heard about Lewis Hamilton criticizing his young nephew for wearing a princess dress: “Lewis Hamilton offers ‘deepest apologies’ after sparking outrage for mocking nephew in princess dress” Lewis Hamilton apologises for mocking nephew in dress | Metro News
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Now Lewis might be in trouble for seeming to approve of the of the return of the grid girls to Monaco: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a8293541.html

Seems to be starting to grovel again. "Lewis Hamilton has backtracked after enthusiastically hailing the return of F1 grid girls." Lewis Hamilton says 'Thank you, Jesus' comment about grid girls was a joke | Autoweek
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:34 AM
 
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Agreed! I turn it up, because I have difficulty understanding their accents, especially DeResta's, but I am absolutely shocked that apparently no compression is used at all on their mics. Once in a while, the two booth announcers will speak very quietly, in an aside, and it's absolutely unintelligible to me. I just let it go now, but I wish they'd use some compression for the commentators vocal mics.

BTW, I mix sound for our church and our pastor uses a lot of loudness range. I use 6:1 compression on his mic so that his quieter comments can be understood without blowing people away during his louder moments
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:50 AM
Status: "0-0-2 start!" (set 13 days ago)
 
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Well, that was fun to watch, although yet again a race won by pit strategy (and a hefty dose of good - and bad - driving). Mercedes really missed the chance to pull Hamilton in for new tires on the safety car, I am sure post-race there will be some words exchanged.

Apparently after the race Verstappen owned up to the mistakes, although I am sure that didn't mollify Ferrari.

I like the commercial-free broadcast and I like Brundle. Still can't stand Croft and the over-all poor audio quality.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:10 PM
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Apparently ESPN will air all races in 2018 commercial-free. Huh. I might actually stay up/get up earlier to watch some. They do air commercial during practices, but, well, there are long stretches of nothing in a practice. I think the last 2 qualys have been commercial-free as well.

Of course, if they aren't showing commercials they aren't earning money and 2018 may be the last year they show F1, contract or no.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:21 AM
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Apparently ESPN will air all races in 2018 commercial-free. Huh. I might actually stay up/get up earlier to watch some. They do air commercial during practices, but, well, there are long stretches of nothing in a practice. I think the last 2 qualys have been commercial-free as well.

Of course, if they aren't showing commercials they aren't earning money and 2018 may be the last year they show F1, contract or no.

They do show a little blurb at the beginning that it's being sponsored by Mothers, it's always possible Mothers is getting a better deal on other air time in exchange for allowing the F1 race to run commercial free.
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Baker City, Oregon
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Last year Liberty Media complained rather crudely that NBC wasn't paying enough for F1 broadcast rights. Of course, the average USA viewership is less than 500,000: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#16eaad683b98

NBC decided not to renew F1 broadcasting, in part because Liberty is planning to offer a competing (not free) streaming service.

Apparently Liberty reportedly then approached Fox Sports who turned them down, so they ended up with ESPN who would use the Sky Sports feed complete with Sky announcers.

It was hoped that Sky would modify their broadcast to allow spots for commercials, but that never happened. During the first race commercials popped up during announcers' mid-speech and viewers complained. So now we end up with no commercials.

Somebody has to be paying ESPN for not having commercials, they can't be doing it just for the honor of broadcasting F1. Is it Mother's Polishes? I don't see how that could be financially feasible for them. If they are being given some sort of a special deal, somebody has to be paying for the deal. It certainly isn't ESPN. It almost has to be Liberty. Maybe they think it will help them in their quest to make F1 a more mainstream sport in the U.S.

They have to be given more time, but I am beginning to suspect that Liberty really didn't know what they were getting into when they paid $8 billion for the commercial side of F1, an international entity with so many players far more complicated than, say, the Atlanta Braves.

What's their biggest accomplishment so far? A new logo?? I wonder how many corporate meetings that took?

It will be interesting to see how their proposed rule changes for 2021 play out.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:31 PM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 25 days ago)
 
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I just don't see Liberty's ownership of F1 boding well for the sport. Paying more attention to the political correctness of grid girls than ways to increase overtaking makes me think the future may have a short life.
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Old 04-23-2018, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Last year Liberty Media complained rather crudely that NBC wasn't paying enough for F1 broadcast rights. Of course, the average USA viewership is less than 500,000: https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2.../#16eaad683b98

NBC decided not to renew F1 broadcasting, in part because Liberty is planning to offer a competing (not free) streaming service.

Apparently Liberty reportedly then approached Fox Sports who turned them down, so they ended up with ESPN who would use the Sky Sports feed complete with Sky announcers.

It was hoped that Sky would modify their broadcast to allow spots for commercials, but that never happened. During the first race commercials popped up during announcers' mid-speech and viewers complained. So now we end up with no commercials.

Somebody has to be paying ESPN for not having commercials, they can't be doing it just for the honor of broadcasting F1. Is it Mother's Polishes? I don't see how that could be financially feasible for them. If they are being given some sort of a special deal, somebody has to be paying for the deal. It certainly isn't ESPN. It almost has to be Liberty. Maybe they think it will help them in their quest to make F1 a more mainstream sport in the U.S.

They have to be given more time, but I am beginning to suspect that Liberty really didn't know what they were getting into when they paid $8 billion for the commercial side of F1, an international entity with so many players far more complicated than, say, the Atlanta Braves.

What's their biggest accomplishment so far? A new logo?? I wonder how many corporate meetings that took?

It will be interesting to see how their proposed rule changes for 2021 play out.
The ESPN deal was a time buy by Liberty. They paid ESPN to have the races there. ESPN was taking ad revenue on top, and that's what Mother's is providing. IMO the ESPN deal is just a stop gap while they get their own platform up and running.

Change is coming slowly but I like what I have seem so far. The social media side has grown an awful lot, the content in the official website with Will Buxton is top notch, and their proposal for the new $$$ distribution looks much better than today's BS "heritage" payments. The 2021 and the new Concorde (or whatever they'll call it) agreement are the true tests for Liberty. That and the streaming platform that will come live for Spain.
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