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Old 05-11-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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IMO, the car culture developed from 1950-1970 is gone. The only reason Nascar peaked in the 90s was the disposable income that baby Boomers had to dump into it. As they have aged and reduced spending, Nascar has tried to roll their marketing machine into the Millenials and has missed the mark. So Nascar alienated their core fan base with their current set of cars, rules, prices, venues, etc and have lost the fickle young fan base they would have needed to survive.

Sure the Millenial generation does not have the same attraction to mechanical things as those before them, but those of them that do also demand more intensive experiences of those they watch. They aren't satisfied to watch car drive in circles for 3-4 hrs on a superspeedway. But they will pack a short track to watch a drift competition.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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IMO, the car culture developed from 1950-1970 is gone. The only reason Nascar peaked in the 90s was the disposable income that baby Boomers had to dump into it. As they have aged and reduced spending, Nascar has tried to roll their marketing machine into the Millenials and has missed the mark. So Nascar alienated their core fan base with their current set of cars, rules, prices, venues, etc and have lost the fickle young fan base they would have needed to survive.

Sure the Millenial generation does not have the same attraction to mechanical things as those before them, but those of them that do also demand more intensive experiences of those they watch. They aren't satisfied to watch car drive in circles for 3-4 hrs on a superspeedway. But they will pack a short track to watch a drift competition.
If you look at the chart that JBtwinz posted in the link to Marketwatch, the biggest drop off of youth in all major sports in the US was NASCAR. The average age jumped 9 years older between 2006 and 2016. The next worst was MLB, with a 5 year older jump.

My youngin's are not interested in NASCAR or basically any televised sport to that matter. I have taken my youngest, a boy, 11 now, to two races at Darlington, NFL games and baseball. On Sunday, he is never in the man cave watching sports with me on my big screen. Neither are my two older girls. The only time I can get them to watch as a family is the SuperBowl. Even then they are mildly interested in the game.

As you mentioned, the car culture helped build NASCAR. Now you rarely see anyone working on their car in their garage or backyard. I see a few people washing (very few waxing/polishing). Possibly changing a flat tire occasionally. The hood only comes up if they need a jump. People are just not interested in tinkering with their cars anymore, plus they are so complicated.

I don't want to see NASCAR go away. It had a great run, but unless something major changes, I don't see it be around much in the next ten years.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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If you look at the chart that JBtwinz posted in the link to Marketwatch, the biggest drop off of youth in all major sports in the US was NASCAR. The average age jumped 9 years older between 2006 and 2016. The next worst was MLB, with a 5 year older jump.



Fine... Make me feel bad about MLB, now.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:50 AM
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If you look at the chart that JBtwinz posted in the link to Marketwatch, the biggest drop off of youth in all major sports in the US was NASCAR. The average age jumped 9 years older between 2006 and 2016. The next worst was MLB, with a 5 year older jump.

My youngin's are not interested in NASCAR or basically any televised sport to that matter. I have taken my youngest, a boy, 11 now, to two races at Darlington, NFL games and baseball. On Sunday, he is never in the man cave watching sports with me on my big screen. Neither are my two older girls. The only time I can get them to watch as a family is the SuperBowl. Even then they are mildly interested in the game.
While I don't watch the football and never have, my son started watching it with his friends. Then they all got interested in fantasy league football. Which got younger people interested BUT what they watch now is not the individual games but the channel that covers just the highlights of whatever games are on and tracks fantasy league points. In that case, catering to "younger" viewers seems to have not had the effect they had in mind.

Formula E, the all-electric open-wheel series, was designed from the start for younger views - very short races, all street courses in places that normally don't have them and all kinds of Mario Kart video game "power ups" during the race (driving through a special section of the track, fan-voted power-ups, etc). They also put out special video games based on the tracks and drivers and encourage you to "challenge" the series drivers in games. Heavy social media presence is also a hallmark.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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While I don't watch the football and never have, my son started watching it with his friends. Then they all got interested in fantasy league football. Which got younger people interested BUT what they watch now is not the individual games but the channel that covers just the highlights of whatever games are on and tracks fantasy league points. In that case, catering to "younger" viewers seems to have not had the effect they had in mind.

Formula E, the all-electric open-wheel series, was designed from the start for younger views - very short races, all street courses in places that normally don't have them and all kinds of Mario Kart video game "power ups" during the race (driving through a special section of the track, fan-voted power-ups, etc). They also put out special video games based on the tracks and drivers and encourage you to "challenge" the series drivers in games. Heavy social media presence is also a hallmark.


Somehow I just don't see Formula E producing the same visceral reaction as seeing Sammy Swindell run around the old Flemington Speedway. a track that from the stands looked smooth yet when walking it more like a plowed field, but Sammy was flat all the way around and averaged 145mph! That was something to see.
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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The "dangerous" sports like football and racing have had the fun stripped from them. They have become sterile activities where if the track has a blemish or the weather is not perfect the event is stopped. It is pathetic and ridiculous.
Stop protecting everyone and let them live out the risk.
Everyone dies from something, so stop acting otherwise.
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