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[cynwldkat]

It does seem they've taken a lot of the fun and imagination away doesn't it? Oh, but hey, look at all those great commercials and products painted all over the cars of today! Now isn't that fun??

[burdell]

Originally Posted by cynwldkat

It does seem they've taken a lot of the fun and imagination away doesn't it? Oh, but hey, look at all those great commercials and products painted all over the cars of today! Now isn't that fun??

If I want to look at billboards I'll just drive down the highway

I've been involved with a few amateur racing programs and part of the attraction racing holds for me has always been to try and make your car just a bit better than the other guy's. NASCAR seems intent onpenalizing people for doing that.

[mm34b]

I believe the Dodge and Plymouth Hemi engines were banned by NASCAR in the mid-1960s too.

Anyone remember the Dodge Charger Daytona and Plymouth Superbird? Both were eventually outlawed by NASCAR for being too fast.

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[cynwldkat]

I think most of us would agree--a big and fun part of this sport was how they used their imagination and how well they could "cheat" or use their tricks! I can't imagine how hum-drum their jobs must be now being so restricted. I know "cheating" isn't fair but look at all those cars they have in a museum at Darlington. It's amazing how they figured out ways around the system. Yes, cheating may send a negetive message to the youngins but it was how it was years ago.

[mm34b]

My favorite story on racing creativity was the one about Smokey Yunick's hand-built Daytona car driven by Cotton Owens. Allegedly, the car was 7/8 normal size.

Didn't Jeff Gordon win the 1997 "The Winston" all-star race with a car that was so questionable that NASCAR told Hendrick Motorsports to never return it to another NASCAR track again?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by mm34b

My favorite story on racing creativity was the one about Smokey Yunick's hand-built Daytona car driven by Cotton Owens. Allegedly, the car was 7/8 normal size.

I believe that was the same Chevelle that Curtis Turner flipped completely out of Atlanta? Speedway.

Smokey was pretty creative, fuel cell size was limited but fuel line wasn't, they'd snake about 50' of 1" ID line thru the car that might hold enough fuel to get them just a little farther down the line

[burdell]

Originally Posted by mm34b

I believe the Dodge and Plymouth Hemi engines were banned by NASCAR in the mid-1960s too.

Anyone remember the Dodge Charger Daytona and Plymouth Superbird? Both were eventually outlawed by NASCAR for being too fast.

I tjink the Daytona/Suoerbird may have been banned for aero reasons? Not sure about the Hemi. I'd like to see everyone build to the same rules, if one team does a better job they deserve to win.

[mm34b]

Originally Posted by burdell

I tjink the Daytona/Suoerbird may have been banned for aero reasons? Not sure about the Hemi.

Both items were banned in order to even up the field. Better "show" if no one is running away with the race, according to NASCAR. They want close finishes.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by mm34b

Both items were banned in order to even up the field. Better "show" if no one is running away with the race, according to NASCAR. They want close finishes.

If I want a 'show' I'm not too far from Broadway, I want racing

Doesn't matter much to me or NASCAR, we each have alternatives.

[TarheelStateNative]

If your faster your better right? This being all equal garbage is for the birds.