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Old 08-14-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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Get a Subaru with Blizzak winter tires. You will have the best combination for driving in the winter. Good winter tires will stop a good 20 feet before an "all season" tire.
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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Go for the 2010 Subbie Forester. Great vehicle.
Thanks for the suggestion. Now I need a good comparison between the 3.6R Outback and a similar Forester. Which one is more "agile", in general what do you like about your Forester? Have you taken it on a long trip?
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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Get a Subaru with Blizzak winter tires. You will have the best combination for driving in the winter. Good winter tires will stop a good 20 feet before an "all season" tire.

Yes I agree, this is basically what I want: AWD, stability control, great winter tires, good torque, good mileage, and a reasonably "agile" car. That's why I'm moving on away from a Volvo in my search. First of all the price. Second, I don't need an electronic assist with everything going on around me. That's what rearview mirrors and side mirrors are for
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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I haven't seen any mention of wildlife warning whistles or whatever you might call them. For about five bucks you can stick a pair of them on your front bumper. They're a little smaller than the picture here. I guess it's kind of difficult to prove how effective they are. But If no deer collisions can be considered as proof, then my past cars did just fine.

I totally forgot to get a pair for my current wagon and this is what it looked like back in June after a deer collision at 45 mph.


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Old 08-14-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I haven't seen any mention of wildlife warning whistles or whatever you might call them. For about five bucks you can stick a pair of them on your front bumper. They're a little smaller than the picture here. I guess it's kind of difficult to prove how effective they are. But fIf no deer collisions is proof, then my past cars did just fine.

I totally forgot to get a pair for my current wagon and this is what it looked like back in June after a deer collision at 45 mph.
wow those were when volvo's were built like tanks to bad they went away from that that car just needs a hood, front fender, rad fan and new headlight and she is good as new.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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I pulled a hood off one at the junkyard and got a headlight there too for $125. I already had a few spare grilles hanging around. No fender damage. Got the hood painted and put the trim pieces back on and all was fixed for $375. The new hood had a couple of dings that I asked the shop to iron out. That's the pusher fan for the AC and seeing how the AC isn't working any longer I just yanked it out. The radiator was undamaged.

I saw the whole thing happen too as I was following my wife on a 50 mph road with no traffic to speak of. She drives a little slow and is about as cautious behind the wheel as anyone I know. The deer was emerging from a hayfield and the missus just never saw it coming. Her brake lights didn't come on until after she hit it. Broad daylight too. You just never know.
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Old 08-14-2010, 09:59 PM
 
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And you are from Vermont! I've lived in a couple of states, always saw some deer here and there. But here in NJ, I saw deer on every single occasion I've visited Morris county (my new home). Every single time, and that was in July... come October, I 'll be swe(a)r(v)ing like never before, ha ha, hopefully in a better car than I own now
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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I haven't seen any mention of wildlife warning whistles or whatever you might call them. For about five bucks you can stick a pair of them on your front bumper. They're a little smaller than the picture here. I guess it's kind of difficult to prove how effective they are. But If no deer collisions can be considered as proof, then my past cars did just fine.

I totally forgot to get a pair for my current wagon and this is what it looked like back in June after a deer collision at 45 mph.
For a time all of my relatives had them in PA and I think wrecked about 15 cars. Since they have took them off in recent years, no crashes.

I think it's more likely the deer stand in the middle of the road instead going "WTF is that noise, AWWWWWWWWWWWW!" instead or will prompt them to start running when they might have quietly been munching away.

Deer I would say are relatively predictable. They seem to move around a lot at dawn and dusk. They also tend to run along fence lines with cover and between water sources.

The worst time of the year though is October when the cover disappears and also they seem to sense hunting season is coming. It's seems like they go crazy racing all over because they know the shooting is about to begin.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Arizona & Wisconsin
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The Volvo XCs are well built (all of the XC models). The new XC70 is somewhat comparable to the Outback in power, dimensions, and overall amenities. Note that I did not say "the same". I'm a little biased toward Volvo producs as I've driven them for 20+ years. The Volvo models are still very stout cars, but Subaru has some very good safety ratings as well. Both the Subaru and Volvo have stability control (or at least have that feature available). I personally find the XC70 more visually appealing, but that's just a personal choice. The price difference between the cars is fairly significant.

I also think the Forester is worth a look. I had one for a couple of weeks as a rental, and it had a good road feel. The model I had was equipped with a sunroof and heated seats, but it had a durable cloth interior (I'm waaaaay over leather after 20+ years of either sticking to, or freezing on, leather seats). I liked the seating position and visibility, but didn't feel as if the car was top heavy at all. There are several trim packages available, as well as two engine choices. The base engine isn't very powerful, but it's OK.

The GC has a frightening initial depreciation curve, while the Subarus are slower to decline in value. Unsure about the Volvo. Knowing that the GC loses so much value in the first 2 years, I would not buy one, at least not as a new car.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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I personally find the XC70 more visually appealing, but that's just a personal choice. The price difference between the cars is fairly significant.
I agree. Not sure what to think about the negative notions of Ford owning Volvo, and the quality going down. Anything to worry about? Has this already happened, or are people simply worried that it will? The cars are still built in Sweden, so I'm hoping the quality is great. Will take a look at the XC70, did not consider this one. You're right, very similar to the Subaru.
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