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Old 09-16-2010, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I still fail to see how a V-6 and a small one at that can run 13's and 14's when not too long ago that was Z-28, SS, 5.0 and 4.6 territory with more horse and torque to boot, not to mention a V-8. Heck, I think my buddy's '03 Mach 1 with the 32V 4.6 DOHC and ram air will only hit high 12's to low 13's. Z-28's and SS Camaros with a LS1 350/ 5.7L can get into the 12's. I'm not buying it!
You're a little behind the times. V6 family sedans have been routinely running in the 14s for the better part of a decade now. Hell, the BMW M5 was running mid-14s with a 3.5L I-6 back in the 1980s. And that was without forced induction. And if you want to really shell out the bucks, you can get a Porsche 911 GT3 that runs high 11s with a flat-six and no forced induction. More conventional sports cars with V6s like the Nissan 370Z and the 2011 Mustang V6 are hitting the 13s with ease.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:54 PM
 
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You're a little behind the times. V6 family sedans have been routinely running in the 14s for the better part of a decade now. Hell, the BMW M5 was running mid-14s with a 3.5L I-6 back in the 1980s. And that was without forced induction. And if you want to really shell out the bucks, you can get a Porsche 911 GT3 that runs high 11s with a flat-six and no forced induction. More conventional sports cars with V6s like the Nissan 370Z and the 2011 Mustang V6 are hitting the 13s with ease.
The '11 Mustang has a new 3.7L 24V DOHC Duratec V-6 that is rated at 305 hp and 280 ft.-lb. The engine is supposed to be a 7,000 RPM revving monster. That is a decent size 6 and the new 5.0 is better than that even. I suppose the tuner guys can beat that too? lol It'll cost ya some serious mods youngins!

YouTube - 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V Runs 10.58@127MPH!
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Again, nobody's talking about what the "tuner guys" can or cannot beat. You stated your incredulity that 6-cylinder cars were running in the 14s. That's what I responded to, and nothing else. What is with folks in here responding to phantom arguments when their own arguments are shot down?
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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I still fail to see how a V-6 and a small one at that can run 13's and 14's when not too long ago that was Z-28, SS, 5.0 and 4.6 territory with more horse and torque to boot, not to mention a V-8. Heck, I think my buddy's '03 Mach 1 with the 32V 4.6 DOHC and ram air will only hit high 12's to low 13's. Z-28's and SS Camaros with a LS1 350/ 5.7L can get into the 12's. I'm not buying it!
the 99-04 mustang 4.6 SOHC 2V GT's only were making 260HP stock and running in the 14.2-14.5 in the 1/4 so a new 3.5 V6 accord with 271HP 6-speed manual tranny in stock form could match those numbers.
the old fox body 5.0 mustangs were high 14 seconds 14.8-14.9
the LS1 camaro SS/Z28 and Trans-Am was a low-mid 13 second cars stock
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:15 AM
 
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Again, nobody's talking about what the "tuner guys" can or cannot beat. You stated your incredulity that 6-cylinder cars were running in the 14s. That's what I responded to, and nothing else. What is with folks in here responding to phantom arguments when their own arguments are shot down?
I say what the others say..... take it to the track and prove it. Don't cry home to mama when you get disappointed either! lol
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I say what the others say..... take it to the track and prove it. Don't cry home to mama when you get disappointed either! lol
It's already been proven, multiple times, with multiple cars, by multiple sources, all of which are easily available to the average citizen. I cannot for the life of me figure out why it's so hard for people to accept information that is right in front of them, especially information that is not in any way hard to believe.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:26 AM
 
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It's already been proven, multiple times, with multiple cars, by multiple sources, all of which are easily available to the average citizen. I cannot for the life of me figure out why it's so hard for people to accept information that is right in front of them, especially information that is not in any way hard to believe.
The most important thing is NO ONE in this thread is arguing that it should be TAKEN TO THE TRACK and NOT ON THE STREET!!!!!!
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:30 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I know the new family cars can run well, but grandma most certain;ly cannot get the times car magazines can. Like I said. I talk real life, not the internet. Go to a drag strip and watch and see for yourself.. None of the stock cars we speak of EVER run in the 13's .. NONE.. Im talking REAL LIFE..


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Not the point. NO ONE claimed a stock Altima orr Accord would run 12s or 10s. NO one. All they had to do is post FACTS that they also don't run 16s, as Frank claimed. Maybe those crap drivers he saw ran 16s, but the fact is, a new Accord or Altima V6 will run 13s and 14s with a grandma behind the wheel. It's been done repeatedly, even with average enthusiasts behind the wheel, as that Motorweek vid shows. With traction control and modern drivetrains, you don't have to be all that good to run these cars at their limits (which is why people get in trouble, as they drive to the cars' limits, but WAY past their own).

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Old 09-17-2010, 05:32 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I know the guys on the bid. From my old GN days..
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:33 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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The most important thing is NO ONE in this thread is arguing that it should be TAKEN TO THE TRACK and NOT ON THE STREET!!!!!!

amen. I do not street race btw.. Years ago.. yes. No more...
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