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Old 09-21-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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back in '86 when I was down and out and dropped out of school for the second time, i recalled sitting on the couch and thinking what i was going to do with the rest of my life. Depressed, aimless but still heavily into reading about cars, I vividly recalled reading a Consumer Reports magazine which at that time talked about the history of Consumer Reports testing and how they first opened in 1936, I believe, how they evolved.

One article buried in that issue (March or February of that year I believe) talked about used car places. It talked of a young man named William Hishke (yes i have a very sharp memory for seemingly petty remote stuff) who camped out in the parking lot of a used car business because a 1969 Buick Skylark was being sold for no more than $1.99. I guess it was first come first served so he wanted to grab it and go

One wonders why even such an older car close to 20 years old would sell for such a low price

This young man was found dead in the car with the ignition key in the on position.

Reason was carbon monoxide poisoning because the car was sold with no exhaust system

I think the rest of the article talked of how used car places were in some kind of violation but since we are talking almost 25 years ago, i don't recall the rest of it

for any old enough to remember, does anyone remember this case or used car places back in the 80's selling dangerous cars? I wonder if there was no legislation back then to sell cars with certain safety features
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Because it was a free country back then?

If the exhaust system was completely gone on the car, and this nimrod couldn't hear that, I'm having a hard time having any sympathy.

If you don't understand how a machine works, find out before you mess with it, or, just don't mess with it...
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:32 PM
 
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Default the article

I don't think mentioned if the car made noise from the lack of exhaust system or if the kid heard the noise or not

do you think the family had any case against the dealer or, like you say would the defense say pretty much the same thing you did?

he could perhaps have asked the car to be towed to a station to have the exhaust system installed before driving it? or would the exhaust system cost what the book value of a 16 year old 69 Skylark would be?
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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I'm going to guess the car was a rusty hulk if it was in NYC, probably the floorboard was rusted out as well as the exhaust system.

As to what the courts would have done in 1986, or now, or 1969, I have no clue. New York is a different country from the one I live in.
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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Default I don't think it was NYC

I think it was in the midwest
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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This story was published in 1985.

Dead Youth's Parents Say Bargain Car Was Death Trap - Orlando Sentinel
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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this is why every car needs to be checked out by the prospective owner before purchase. just the exhaust noise alone should have been a clue, but the holes in the truck should have nailed the car as an accident waiting to happen. back then, and even today, people still only look at the price of the car and not the condition. i have little sympathy for those idiots.
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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Caveat emptor.

I haven't heard of anything like that recently, but used car dealers still have all sorts of tricks. Anytime there is a disaster; 9/11, Katrina, Andrew, etc. you can bet that there will be a ton of cheap used cars hitting the market within 3-6 months. The 9/11 ones were pretty bad as the dealers knew where the cars came from, but never told the prospective buyers. Many of those cars had smells that could be covered up, but never eliminated.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Southern NH
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Wow. talk about obscure.... Apparently the families of the victims sued and got some money:
Weekly World News - Google Books
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Old 09-22-2010, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek, GA
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Although the Orlando Sentinel is a somewhat legit paper-
and the Weekly World ranks up there with the Enquirer-
This story has "Urban Myth" written all over it- and for good reason!

Like, "if it's too good to be true- it probably is!". Or, "never stay in an idling car for an extended period of time". Maybe, "girls shouldn't be alone with boys in cars".

O.K.- Maybe I'm stretchin' a bit- but really!
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