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Old 09-21-2010, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The good: It seems that Subaru has finally dialed the understeer out of the chassis/suspension setup, something Mitsubishi had done with the Evo since day one (or at least since the day the Evo landed on our shores).

The bad: The WRX now gets the STi fender flares on both the sedan and the hatchback so now it's "boy racer" look or nothing, which makes it a tougher sell for those who want a capable yet semi-adult-looking car. Also, it still has a bloody 5-speed. I understand the need to keep some market separation between the WRX and the STi especially now that their performance isn't that far apart. But c'mon, this is 2011 (in model years anyway). Even sub-compacts come with six-speeds these days. They don't have to offer the beefed-up, tricked-out electro-gizmo six-speed out of the STi; the plain ol' low-tech viscous-center-diff unit from the new Legacy would be quite adequate.

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Old 09-21-2010, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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The WRX is definitely a steal at $27k nicely equiped (starts at $25).

The adult car is still the Legacy GT. Much better looking and a nicer interior with the Limited package. Definitely my next car.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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yeah a manual 6-speed would be great heck even the mustang got one for 2011. so it's time for suburu to step up here and give car the lovers what they want. I mean they could just throw the cheaper/de-tunes version of the STI 6-speed version in there.

The non-STI WRX is supposed to be the less flashy sleeper version but still have alot of the performance/fun factor just in a more conservative package.
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:18 AM
 
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If I could I would buy one.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:07 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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I don't understand the need for wanting more gears. More gears usually means less torque from the engine. I'd rather have more power and a close ratio 4-5 speed.
Unless you want more OD gears. In that case never mind.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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In what universe does "more gears mean less torque from the engine?" By that logic a ZR-1 with its 600+ lb-ft of torque ought to come with a two-speed.

More gears means better-spaced ratios, but just as importantly, yeah, a taller final gear might help this poor car's mediocre highway fuel economy rating.
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:39 AM
 
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In what universe does "more gears mean less torque from the engine?" By that logic a ZR-1 with its 600+ lb-ft of torque ought to come with a two-speed.

More gears means better-spaced ratios, but just as importantly, yeah, a taller final gear might help this poor car's mediocre highway fuel economy rating.
Yeah, the Z06's get 25mpg highway when cruising in 6th gear. Running 75mph at around 2000rpm.

The Mustangs as others have mentioned manage to get 30high which is impressive.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:22 AM
 
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Having done thousands of race track laps in all the 2008 and up Impreza models, IMHO, the 5 spd in the WRX is just fine. I'm not a big fan of the six speed in the STI. It's not very smooth and there is something wrong in the box on the 4th to 3rd downchange and plenty of people miss the gear and go right into 1st.

Sometimes less is more.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:51 AM
 
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I don't understand not offering the Legacy/Outback 6 speed on the WRX. The 6 speed used in those models is just a revision of the split case 5 speed used in the WRX. In fact, the only difference in gear ratio is a taller overdrive gear to improve MPG. I understand not wanting to use the STI style 6 speed as the power gap has narrowed to the point where the STI's major acceleration advantage has as much to do with its gearing as its power output. The STI 6 speed has much more aggressive 1st and 2nd gears to give it added off the line punch.

Subaru really needs to look at taking the STI up another step performance wise so they have room to improve the WRX without running into STI territory.
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Old 09-22-2010, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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yeah they need to boost power to the 400HP level on the STI that is where alot of other cars in it's price range are already making... Ie. the current 5.0 mustang GT.

then they could have the base WRX with 250HP and a sport version with 300HP and a few STI options to split the diffrence then they could have three trim/performance levels
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