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Old 10-06-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Clear Lake, Houston TX
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Sounds like hybrids of all vehicle sizes will become the new standard within our lifetimes. We may even see diesel hybrids emerge?
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Hialeah
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Let's hope this time around we don't see HT4100 engines, Cadillac Cimarrons, 85mph speedometers, or cars that take anywhere from 14 to 22 seconds to get to 60.
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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Actually, it's already almost being achieved in the United Kingdom. Although the average fuel efficiency of all cars in the U.K. this model year is only about 36 mpg (combined), the lowest-level (diesel) trims of the top 10 selling vehicles in the U.K. mostly get around 60 - 70 mpg highway (and that's U.S. gallon, not imperial gallon). And they're not hybrids, either, just efficient, small-displacement diesel engines propelling little car bodies. Personally, I would not want to drive one of them, for the simple fact that they're ugly, manual, and probably uncomfortable, even though they get great mileage:


Ford Fieste Mk7 Dreitürer Trend Squeeze [CC-BY-SA-3.0 or GFDL], by Thomas doerfer, from Wikimedia Commons


VW Golf VI 1.4 Comfortline Deep Black [CC-BY-3.0], by Thomas doerfer, from Wikimedia Commons
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:27 PM
 
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Nobody prefers to drive these small cars, but gas in europe is 7/8$'s a gallon so....
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Gee, speak for yourself guys. That Golf is exactly same size as Jetta or Mazda3. I am over 6'5' and have no issue with comfort. I really miss 60+mpg from those diesels or TSI engines during my US stays.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:25 AM
 
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Naw, you can get pretty used to smaller cars and the extra cash you save in gas is real good, but in my home town of New Orleans we do have pot holes(craters) that swallow smaller vehicles and the sudden summer squals drop buckets of rain callenging big trucks and SUV's along with Hurricane evacuations when you load up the family and any belongings you may want to not loose, then the large 4 door gas guzzlen V-8 pick-up is worth every penny, especialy when the clown behind you rear ends you and you have a small dent and they are waiting to be towed off.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:04 AM
 
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I think if they really want to achieve the numbers being thrown around, we need to loosen our diesel regulations so that we can get the small displacement diesels popular in Europe over here. The U.S. has long been fighting a three way battle between safety (larger vehicles are generally safer), efficiency and emissions. Something has to give somehwere. We basically have the NHTSA charged with safety and efficiency and they are being paired off with the EPA who is pushing the emissions standards. Until they are on the same page, we'll just continue to ignore cheap readily available solutions to the macro issue of oil dependency to power our cars.
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