Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-23-2010, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
42,554 posts, read 86,941,000 times
Reputation: 36644

Advertisements

My dad had a '51 Dodge that was 60 years ahead of its time. There was a button on the dash that you press the activate the starter.

What's the big deal nowadays with cars with push-button starter? TV ads for cars (Ford Fiesta, among others), pitching that as the selling point.

There's also a Ford ad where you switch cars for a week, and the gal is only excited over the bloatware (GPS and Satellite radio), which will cost her extra after the first year.

Is there anything new and positive about the new models of cars?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-23-2010, 01:33 PM
 
9,803 posts, read 16,185,309 times
Reputation: 8266
Maybe they will bring back push button automatic transmissions ( Chrysler Corp had them on cars in the mid 50's. )
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 01:36 PM
 
4,500 posts, read 12,339,906 times
Reputation: 2901
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtur88 View Post
My dad had a '51 Dodge that was 60 years ahead of its time. There was a button on the dash that you press the activate the starter.

What's the big deal nowadays with cars with push-button starter? TV ads for cars (Ford Fiesta, among others), pitching that as the selling point.

There's also a Ford ad where you switch cars for a week, and the gal is only excited over the bloatware (GPS and Satellite radio), which will cost her extra after the first year.

Is there anything new and positive about the new models of cars?
Brake regeneration systems, Start-Stop technology, LED daytime running lights, Increasing interior design quality uhm.. I'm sure I'll think of more later.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
6,664 posts, read 30,607,140 times
Reputation: 5184
Many early vehicles had a start button on the floor.
I had a start button on my old Volvo. 60's Volvo's had the starter switch linked by a shielded cable to the coil. These switches were so firm they would shear the key off.

The new cars with push button ignition do not require you to remove the key from your pocket.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Poway, CA
2,698 posts, read 12,169,913 times
Reputation: 2251
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferretkona View Post
The new cars with push button ignition do not require you to remove the key from your pocket.
Correct. You don't even have a 'key' per se. I believe the correct term is 'fob'. So long as you have the fob on your person, the car will start with just the push button. On most vehicles with systems like this, it will also automatically unlock the doors as well.

Mike
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:17 PM
 
660 posts, read 1,652,984 times
Reputation: 211
My Wife's Jaguar doesn't have a key...only a thing that's as thin as a credit card (but smaller in size).

It opens the doors, trunk, can remotely start the car from 600 feet away, has a "panic alarm", starts the car when inside (no button anywhere in the cabin), and adjusts the mirrors, driver's seat, and steering wheel height to 4 different personal settings when you open the doors. The sound and navigation systems are also useless without that card.

The downside.....it's $800 to replace a lost one.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Pompey, NY
406 posts, read 1,450,705 times
Reputation: 331
I have a Honda S2000, one of the first modern cars to be equipped with a push button starter. It is IMO a bit of frippery in a car remarkably devoid of such silliness. In the S2000's case, the button is used in conjunction with a conventional key inserted in the conventional place. To start the car, turn the key to run, then hit the button, which is located on the left side of the steering wheel. I have read that the reason for the button is to allow fast re-starts in the event of a spin and subsequent stall. It is located to the left to allow the right hand to be available for shifting duties, the same reason Porsche locates their ignition switch there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
147 posts, read 646,230 times
Reputation: 114
I had a 1954 Buick with the old straight 8, that to start it you turned the key on and pressed the gas pedal to activate the starter.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
24,454 posts, read 25,987,852 times
Reputation: 59813
Purty sure the 54"s had V8's.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2010, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
42,554 posts, read 86,941,000 times
Reputation: 36644
There is something fundamentally unsettling about this push-button no-key starter. Would you drive this car to Alaska, depending on that newfangled electronic thingamajig to start your car in the middle of the Yukon, or find somebody to start it?

More and more, cars are designed for soccer moms to drive to the hairdresser, and anything less predictable could leave you stranded for any of a hundred little tiny failures.

In the 1930's, the Okies drove their families to California in a 1922 car, with a set of crescent wrenches, a couple of screwdrivers, and a tire iron. Duct tape hadn't been invented yet.

A couple of years ago, I was in my Toyota dealers shop, and a guy drove in with a new Sienna. Run-flat tires, with no spare, not even a well to put one in. I asked the Toyota man if he would drive that car to Alaska. He just laughed.

Cars are now designed to be driven on summer blacktop roads within a radius of 50 miles from a dealer. Nothing that goes wrong can ever be bypassed by intuition or duct tape. That Sienna had a motorized rear-deck lifter, operating off a button on the dash. Good luck when there's a little ice buildup. But, of course, our soccer mom has a garage. It's an indoor car.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Automotive
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top