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Old 03-10-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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The plans have been made. Now the plans to add bicycle pathways to local roads await being implemented nationwide. With these plans uniformity will ensured so get get used to seeing, and driving, with them.

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One good point about the plan is that bicyclist will no longer be able to ride willy nilly in traffic they ,as well as drivers, will have new traffic rules to follow by law.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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They are all over Portland plus this is bike city USA. One of the cities bridges is outside my Condo and some 5000 bikes cross this bridge each day with the AM rush hour. There are bikes everywhere here on the roads with drivers. I do not agree with this especially in tight urban type settings such as Portland. Im all for people riding bikes but not on crowded city streets with all forms of vehicles and transit vehicles.

I drive very little here in Portland and I am afraid of hitting someone with this many bikes on the road with me. There are so many collisions between cars and bikes here, and the last few years so many deaths of these bike riders.

So I think if this is how its going to be. That bikes are going to be everywhere across America, then I hope its done better than Portland has done it. Dispite all its praise for bike friendly, Portland did a lousy job building proper trailways and most riding is on streets and sidewalks competing with all sorts of traffic. Scary stuff
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Destrehan, Louisiana
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The only problem I have with this is here they are taking two lane roads and changing them into one lane roads with a bike path. Talk about making traffic worse.

busta
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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It's an interesting plan, but the problem is that the vast majority of areas particularly in the northeast simply don't have the room to add these dedicated paths. It's sort of a Catch-22. You could justify building the bike lanes if you knew that there would be a corresponding drop in car traffic that would compensate for the lost lanes. Of course, those decisions are going to be based on studies of how many bike riders there are. Of course, that number is most likely artificially low as people won't commute on bikes without the safety of the dedicated lanes.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Ah, another category of "moving pylons" to dodge.

Do you get bonus point for running them over ?
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Ah, another category of "moving pylons" to dodge.

Do you get bonus point for running them over ?
Yes, but how much depends on whether or not they are pretending they are Lanse Armstrong in the Tour de France.
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Here come the "jokes" about mowing bicyclists down, because they present such a risk and danger to those poor motorists actually having to share the road.

I'm not amused. Just think the next bicyclist you hit (or jokingly skirt right by) by not giving them a little room is someone's son or daughter.
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:30 PM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Here come the "jokes" about mowing bicyclists down, because they present such a risk and danger to those poor motorists actually having to share the road.

I'm not amused. Just think the next bicyclist you hit (or jokingly skirt right by) by not giving them a little room is someone's son or daughter.
When I see bicycles carrying a license plate meaning they have paid a road use tax just like we do with our autos I will start giving them the room/respect that they have paid for.
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Old 03-11-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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Here come the "jokes" about mowing bicyclists down, because they present such a risk and danger to those poor motorists actually having to share the road.

I'm not amused. Just think the next bicyclist you hit (or jokingly skirt right by) by not giving them a little room is someone's son or daughter.
I'd never intentionally hit anyone, however, I don't enjoy the majority of cyclists that I happen to come into contact with on a daily basis that completely ignore all traffic signs including stop signs and red lights, ride between slower moving or stopped cars, refuse to yield right of way to faster moving traffic, etc.

It's a two way street and unfortunately it seems like most cyclists feel the actual rules of the road don't apply to them. Their antics make the people in cars nervous, because we are after all driving two tons of metal that doesn't exactly stop on a dime and we are pretty much 100% sure that even if the cyclist ran into us, we would be the ones getting sued.
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Old 03-11-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm not out to amuse everyone. You are not amused ? Take it to hell.
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