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Old 03-20-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Planet Eaarth
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Presented without comment to discuss the right to choose the form of mobility to be used.

" In his In Defence of Jaywalking Tom covers the new hype about these foolish souls who dare to inconvienence motorists by crossing streets where they're 'not supposed to' are under fire.

Which brings us to the question. Is Urban Mobility a basic human right? Do we not have the right to move about the urban landscape as we see fit? It has been so for most of human history, after all."


Copenhagenize.com - Building Better Bicycle Cultures: Is Urban Mobility A Human Right?
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Old 03-20-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Purgatory (A.K.A. Dallas, Texas)
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No. It's not.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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You have better forums, even inside City Data, for your agenda, TW. Go there. Posting here is NOT doing your cause any favors, unless you are secretly a car fanatic that's trying to get other car enthusiasts pissed off at militant cyclists...
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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The right to jaywalk? This is the dumbest thing I've read about since the last thread you opened here in the Automotive forum on bicycles.....

Not for nothing what does jaywalking have to do with auto's????

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...ng-street.html (80 year old killed crossing street)

http://www.ehow.com/list_7485363_dri...crossings.html

If some jerk wants to cross where-ever they feel like fine, there is always room in the hospitals or six feet under...... AND the gene pool will be all the better........

Better yet, people like you should cross a highway that way there will be no doubt about where you will wind up

Why this person wants to turn America into another EU country is beyond me.

Hey clueless one, post in forums that care about this like maybe:

~ Health and Wellness?

~ Green Living?

~ Exercise and Fitness?

~ Hobbies and Recreation?

~ Sports?

~ Frugal Living?

Agree, lets make a free-for-all no-rules on all streets and highways, in about a year we won't have to worry about bicyclists anymore... and the genius's who decide to cross the streets where-ever they feel like will go the way of the dodo bird, extinct.......

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Old 03-20-2011, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Which brings us to the question. Is Urban Mobility a basic human right? Do we not have the right to move about the urban landscape as we see fit? It has been so for most of human history, after all."
If you stepped in front of a galloping horse in the year 1630, you would have gotten crushed by the creature and likely maimed or killed.

If you step in front of a moving car today, you will likely be maimed or killed.

In any case, urban mobility most certainly is a basic human right. I walk all over San Francisco every day. I make sure not to step in the path of things that are 20x my weight moving at speed without ample distance, and it prevents me from being maimed and killed. This allows me to look at cherry blossoms, spot hummingbirds, ponder the shape of clouds, and other nice things that go along with living in a major Californian coastal city.
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Old 03-21-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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People belong on the sidewalks/crosswalks. Only vehicles that can keep up with the flow of traffic and obey all traffic laws belong on the street.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I'll jaywalk. It's not like drivers pay attention to cross-walks anyway. Besides, no one has ever been killed getting hit by a flashing cross-walk sign - it's the car that kills you. Look out for cars when you cross the street and you'll be alright. I don't see how that "inconveniences motorists" though, except for punks who like to take their sweet time as if to dare you to hit them.

I have a right to cross the street and you have the right to drive on it at the speed limit. I'll just kindly stay out your way.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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I'll jaywalk. It's not like drivers pay attention to cross-walks anyway. Besides, no one has ever been killed getting hit by a flashing cross-walk sign - it's the car that kills you. Look out for cars when you cross the street and you'll be alright. I don't see how that "inconveniences motorists" though, except for punks who like to take their sweet time as if to dare you to hit them.

I have a right to cross the street and you have the right to drive on it at the speed limit. I'll just kindly stay out your way.

So you advocate breaking the law, another arrogant elitist......

You legally have the right to cross a street at certain places and at certain times, cross anywhere else and it's called jaywalking and you could be cited......

Jaywalking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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