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Old 06-19-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Lazy = doing less work than you have to or taking the easy way out.

I don't know if I'd generalize that much.

Lazy has a negative connotation, while working hard to gain luxury or convenience items doesn't seem lazy. Is it lazy to have indoor plumbing rather than a functional outhouse? Not really. Is it lazy to take you pickup to the Home Depot to pick up 20 bags of mulch rather than walk there and hand carry them home one bag at a time? I woudln't say so.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I started off with manual transmission British sports cars and worked my way to automatic tranny Subaru's, Buick Station Wagons and, now, a big (650 Burgman) scooter with a CVT (continuously variable ratio) drive system. The scooter has a "manual" push button alternative but I think the CVT does a better job and lets me concentrate on the riding instead of engine RPM and what not.

I was recently driving the Subaru legacy Wagon on West Virginia mountain roads and did use the gear selector part of the automatic to avoid down shifts in the middle of hairpin corners. The car seemed easier to drive in that mode.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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I don't know if I'd generalize that much.

Lazy has a negative connotation, while working hard to gain luxury or convenience items doesn't seem lazy. Is it lazy to have indoor plumbing rather than a functional outhouse? Not really. Is it lazy to take you pickup to the Home Depot to pick up 20 bags of mulch rather than walk there and hand carry them home one bag at a time? I woudln't say so.
Bad analogy. One is realistic while the other isnt. There's nothing wrong with people choosing auto over manual. I can care less as I've had my fair share of both. I'm not saying that in every single case those who choose not to drive manual are lazy, but in my experiences, those who know how to drive stick but rather not do so because it just requires more work than a conventional auto tranny. If I didnt live in a congested city I would prefer a manual myself depending on the car.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany
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But lots of Europe and rest of world plays basketball. And Asia and Latin America plays baseball. Bulgaria likes to lift weights, but we don't care about much about that.

We also don't riot after most sports events. You guys can keep that.
About Basketball, Handball, Volleyball: They care for it secondarily.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany
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Lazy = doing less work than you have to or taking the easy way out.

I have owned several manual transmission cars in my life time. Nowadays I prefer an auto with a tip tronic gearbox. I live in NYC and manual tranny's arent practical. Many people I know prefer not to drive manual because they flat out say "its too much work".
I don't like to clean my home (I hate handling the dirty floor water) and it is too much work to me anyways. Would you call me lazy if I would by me a household Roboter?
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I used to drive 30,000 miles a year. When I had manual transmissions, I was replacing the clutch every 2 years. Now that I have automatics the maintenance is much easier and my operating expense is less.

I had up 4 manual transmissioned vehicles at the same time back then and it seamed like I was always replacing a clutch.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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How much stop and go driving do you do "OP"?
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany
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I used to drive 30,000 miles a year. When I had manual transmissions, I was replacing the clutch every 2 years. Now that I have automatics the maintenance is much easier and my operating expense is less.

I had up 4 manual transmissioned vehicles at the same time back then and it seamed like I was always replacing a clutch.
Do you live at the countryside?
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany
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How much stop and go driving do you do "OP"?
Yes, you have to replace the clutch that often.
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:32 AM
 
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I used to drive 30,000 miles a year. When I had manual transmissions, I was replacing the clutch every 2 years. Now that I have automatics the maintenance is much easier and my operating expense is less.

I had up 4 manual transmissioned vehicles at the same time back then and it seamed like I was always replacing a clutch.
Did you know how to properly drive manual? Under normal driving conditions a clutch can/should last a very long time! I've had cars with over 100k miles with its original clutch.
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