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Old 06-21-2014, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Were you stuck in it every weekday for an hour and a half?

When you've dealt with that kind of traffic for the better part of two decades, the novelty of stepping on a clutch pedal 20 or 30 times every mile wears razor-thin, especially when automatics are ubiquitous and cost little to no more than a manual any more. If that makes me lazy, well that's just too damn bad for anyone who imagines driving a manual somehow imparts upon them a stronger work ethic or some such stupid sh*t.
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Old 06-21-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Were you stuck in it every weekday for an hour and a half?

When you've dealt with that kind of traffic for the better part of two decades, the novelty of stepping on a clutch pedal 20 or 30 times every mile wears razor-thin, especially when automatics are ubiquitous and cost little to no more than a manual any more. If that makes me lazy, well that's just too damn bad for anyone who imagines driving a manual somehow imparts upon them a stronger work ethic or some such stupid sh*t.
Yes, I would be stuck in heavy traffic each day. Back then automobiles with manual transmissions were quite common, so I wasn't the only one on the road driving manual. I drove a 1962 Volvo for a few years, then a 2-seater Alfa Romeo. The first automatic car I owned was a Rambler with the transmission controls at the dash, and hated the thing. I learned to drive automobiles with manual transmissions in NY back in the '60s, and still drive automobiles and trucks with manual transmissions. In the '70s drove dump trucks, and tractors with double trailers that had manual transmissions (8 gear forward transmissions, with high/low range).

No idea of what you are talking about on your last sentence. A manual transmission is just a transmission. it has nothing to do with ethics or feelings.

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Old 06-21-2014, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany
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The majority of the manual lovers don't embrace technology. They will also be the ones who insist on turning a key in the ignition while all new cars have push button starts. Probably also complain you can't get crank windows anymore. But they don't tend to buy new cars, so the auto companies will continue to make fewer manual cars.

I welcome the day when all cars are automatics.
It will never come!!!
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: North Port, Florida
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It has absolutely nothing to do with embracing technology.

I just bought a new car and I refused to be FORCED into an automatic I DON"T WANT.

Several dealers I went to reluctantly admitted that as soon as they get a manual transmission car in... it's sold.

I asked if 90% of people now want automatics....why aren't 10% of your cars manual?
The answer I got is: "We can't get enough of them from the manufacturer".

So my conclusion is this.... It's not that people don't want stick shift cars....it's more that they've become very difficult to get....therefore people buy what they see on the lot.
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Old 06-21-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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Were you stuck in it every weekday for an hour and a half?

When you've dealt with that kind of traffic for the better part of two decades, the novelty of stepping on a clutch pedal 20 or 30 times every mile wears razor-thin, especially when automatics are ubiquitous and cost little to no more than a manual any more. If that makes me lazy, well that's just too damn bad for anyone who imagines driving a manual somehow imparts upon them a stronger work ethic or some such stupid sh*t.

Yep, looks like we have a lazy ass right here.
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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The average driver creeps forward too fast when stuck in traffic (this is a "jack rabbit driver"). But the experienced driver does not, regardless if the transmission is manual or not. For example, if the traffic is at a standstill and you are driving a car, put it on "park" and turn the motor off if you like, or just keep it idling (that's up to you).

But if the traffic is just moving slowly, set the automatic transmission to D, and don't press the gas pedal unless you have to. If you are driving manual, do the same, except that you shift the transmission the lowest gear possible to maintain a very slow and constant speed. If you do this with a manual transmission, you won't have to constantly mess around with the clutch.

Those of you have no idea of what I am talking about, watch how a big rig driver acts in heavy traffic or a jamb, or just when he or she approaches a traffic light that's turning red. There are a lot of older tractors with manual transmission on the US roads, and these too get stuck in traffic jambs like we do. If you still don't understand, then I have no idea what to say
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That's easy, op. Resale.
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Were you stuck in it every weekday for an hour and a half?

When you've dealt with that kind of traffic for the better part of two decades, the novelty of stepping on a clutch pedal 20 or 30 times every mile wears razor-thin, especially when automatics are ubiquitous and cost little to no more than a manual any more. If that makes me lazy, well that's just too damn bad for anyone who imagines driving a manual somehow imparts upon them a stronger work ethic or some such stupid sh*t.
I have taken it one further.

I grew up driving a stick (my first two cars were stick...did not own an automatic till I was in my late 20s). I think stick is fun and enjoy driving stick.

Now I am like, "Wtf is the point?"
The computers in the cars are faster and better than you are now (in the performance cars).

I routinely sit in traffic where you move five feet and stop and ten feet and stop and five feet and stop and just effin' shoot me now if I have to clutch in and out and in and out of that nonsense.

My latest car takes this to a new level - it drives itself in stop and go traffic.
BEST THING EVER.

OMG. If you are stuck in traffic as much as I am, you totally need to look into this. It is FANTASTIC.
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Old 06-21-2014, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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I have taken it one further.

I grew up driving a stick (my first two cars were stick...did not own an automatic till I was in my late 20s). I think stick is fun and enjoy driving stick.

Now I am like, "Wtf is the point?"
The computers in the cars are faster and better than you are now (in the performance cars).

I routinely sit in traffic where you move five feet and stop and ten feet and stop and five feet and stop and just effin' shoot me now if I have to clutch in and out and in and out of that nonsense.

My latest car takes this to a new level - it drives itself in stop and go traffic.
BEST THING EVER.

OMG. If you are stuck in traffic as much as I am, you totally need to look into this. It is FANTASTIC.
Soon we will have self-driving cars. When that happens we can drink all the way home without having to worry about MADD nor highway police

Then we get out of the car and step on an electric escalator that will walk us all the way to our apartment door, and the door will automatically open upon a retina scan. At the moment the door opens, the lights will come on automatically, the coffee pot will start brewing some coffee, which will be served to us at the recliner by a beautiful and "naked" android who looks like Brat Pit's wife. The only problem is that by then 400 pounds would be the average male's weight, so when we stand in front of the toilet we can't see it

~Just having fun. Please don't take it the wrong way.

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Old 06-21-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Soon we will have self-driving cars. When that happens we can drink all the way home without having to worry about MADD nor highway police

Then we get out of the car and step on an electric escalator that will walk us all the way to our apartment door, and the door will automatically open upon a retina scan. At the moment the door opens, the lights will come on automatically, the coffee pot will start brewing some coffee, which will be served to us at the recliner by a beautiful and "naked" android who looks like Brat Pit's wife. The only problem is that by then 400 pounds would be the average weight, so when we males stand in front of the toilet we can't see it

~Just having fun. Please don't take it the wrong way.

LOL!
Of course. Jesting.
Though I have never heard of anyone losing weight from driving a manual...
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