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Old 03-29-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Kentucky
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No more Pontiac G8 or even Pontiac for that matter. No more Cobalt SS, Caliber SRT4, Acura RSX, Dodge Magnum, Toyota Supra, Jeep SRT8, etc, etc. Are we heading back to the 70's and econo-s--tboxes? I guess there will always be the pony cars and the Charger R/T. Are we heading back to the no HP generation?
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Old 03-29-2011, 05:49 PM
 
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Pomtiac wnet the way of Hm bankrupsy. GM will domestically be a much smaller player in autos as well as chrysler.The competiton from korean and chinese will be strong in comig decades besides just japanese makes.Every american maker where i live alos sells a foreign makers or multiple makers that survived the cut by GM.
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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No more Pontiac G8 or even Pontiac for that matter. No more Cobalt SS, Caliber SRT4, Acura RSX, Dodge Magnum, Toyota Supra, Jeep SRT8, etc, etc. Are we heading back to the 70's and econo-s--tboxes? I guess there will always be the pony cars and the Charger R/T. Are we heading back to the no HP generation?
That's dodge neon srt-4. Jeep is going to bring an srt-8 again with this new model.
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Old 03-29-2011, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC & New York
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The RSX was too inexpensive for Acura to keep, when they went upmarket. Plus, with a utilitarian hatch in the lineup, why would one buy the RDX or the TSX wagon?
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:39 PM
 
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Its called marketing........How else would you explain the hype and antics they have used trying to "reinvent the muscle car" There is always something "new" to buy when one model stops....
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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Chrysler is still on the ball. Other than the CTS-V that starts at $63k, Chrysler is the only American car company giving us performance sedans. Plus, the Charger R/T & 300C are available with AWD!

Dodge R/T has 370HP and RWD. The Dodge SRT8 with a ~470HP 392 is coming for 2012 model year. The 2012 Chrysler 300C SRT8 has also been announced. Jeep SRT8 is coming back for 2012 wtih same 470HP, it should debut at NY Auto Show at end of April.

Only thing needed is a 6 speed manual tranny in the SRT8 lineup. But Dodge is saying it's not part of their business model and the money needed for R&D, etc isn't worth the money. They are at least looking at adding a 8 speed automatic and the 5 speed is going to get paddle shifters.

2012 Charger SRT8




2012 Chrysler 300C SRT8


Chrysler showed this off at Spring Fest this past weekend. People believe this is what the 300 SRT8 will look like, except there will be a diffuser on the front with a different bumper.




This is most likely the SRT8 bumper:


Jeep SRT8

Should debut at NY Auto show at end of April. No good pictures, so this will be interesting.

http://2012jeep-details.info/images/2012-jeep-grand-cherokee-srt8-1.jpg (broken link)


Hopefully the next generation Caliber will get a SRT4 treatment. With Ralph Gilles as CEO of Dodge, I believe we are in for some great cars.


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Old 03-29-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I think the Caliber is dead and will be replaced with a FIAT
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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I think the Caliber is dead and will be replaced with a FIAT
It will still be a Dodge Caliber.....thus next generation. Dodge still needs an small car.

http://www.dodgeforum.com/articles/2...-overview.html

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Powertrain - It's believed a Fiat 1750cc turbocharged engine is being considered, which has been known to put out a top scale of 200 horsepower and 236 foot pounds of torque. This could also be adjusted for a future model labeled SRT4. In reality, the 2012 Caliber will likely end up with a 2.4 liter four cylinder which still puts out about 190 horsepower and 175 foot pounds of torque. This can keep the price down while still providing satisfying sales results and public interest.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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No more Pontiac G8 or even Pontiac for that matter. No more Cobalt SS, Caliber SRT4, Acura RSX, Dodge Magnum, Toyota Supra, Jeep SRT8, etc, etc. Are we heading back to the 70's and econo-s--tboxes? I guess there will always be the pony cars and the Charger R/T. Are we heading back to the no HP generation?
What? there has never been more HP offered. For example
Ford Mustang
Corvettes
Challangers
Camaros
Durangos
300 C
Camry/Sonata/Accord/Altima all have over 270hp
AMG Mercedes
F model Lexus
M BMWs
S/RS Audis
And even the non sport models have tons of power
Even Hyundai/Kia offer high hp cars now

Quite frankly we have an overdose of HP!
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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No more Pontiac G8 or even Pontiac for that matter. No more Cobalt SS, Caliber SRT4, Acura RSX, Dodge Magnum, Toyota Supra, Jeep SRT8, etc, etc. Are we heading back to the 70's and econo-s--tboxes? I guess there will always be the pony cars and the Charger R/T. Are we heading back to the no HP generation?
we are in the middle of the new pony car wars era we have boss 302 mustangs, shebly GT500's, challenger R/T and SRT8s with 5.7 and 6.4 liter hemis and 6.2 liter Camaro SS./

we also have the new v-6 mustang thst get 31 MPG and has 305HP which beats the FWD caliber SRT 4 and cobalt SS since it is a RWD set up like the GT with the optional handling pkg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qqzgyy3jBE
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