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Old 04-02-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The TC is several hundred pounds heavier than the Crown Vic. I don't know if that would make that much of a difference, though.
Yeah - that's gotta be a big part of it. I was truly amazed the first time I rode in it as it is a whole different feel that screams luxury.
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Yeah - that's gotta be a big part of it. I was truly amazed the first time I rode in it as it is a whole different feel that screams luxury.
I should rent a 2005-2011 TC just to compare it with my '95. One of my friends rented a TC a few years ago; don't know the exact year of the car, probably about 2007 or 2008, and he said it was a great freeway-driving car (he drove it from West Hills in the San Fernando Valley up to Bakersfield).
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:18 PM
 
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I should rent a 2005-2011 TC just to compare it with my '95. One of my friends rented a TC a few years ago; don't know the exact year of the car, probably about 2007 or 2008, and he said it was a great freeway-driving car (he drove it from West Hills in the San Fernando Valley up to Bakersfield).
That would be an interesting comparison. Crown Vics went to rack and pinion steering in 2003, I believe, so I'm sure Town Cars did as well. And, from the reports I've read, it ruined the stable tracking quality. I'll bet your '95 would be far superior.
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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That would be an interesting comparison. Crown Vics went to rack and pinion steering in 2003, I believe, so I'm sure Town Cars did as well. And, from the reports I've read, it ruined the stable tracking quality. I'll bet your '95 would be far superior.
Could be. My '95 does track very well.
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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Could be. My '95 does track very well.
Did a little searching and confirmed that, yes, the Town Car's steering was ruined at the same time.

2003 Lincoln Town Car - Road Test & First Look - Motor Trend

Rack and pinion steering is known for wandering back and forth all over the road - what a stupid idea. But, of course, those of us who came of age drooling over the great 60s classics have learned to expect less and less.
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Old 04-02-2011, 05:09 PM
 
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Did a little searching and confirmed that, yes, the Town Car's steering was ruined at the same time.

2003 Lincoln Town Car - Road Test & First Look - Motor Trend

Rack and pinion steering is known for wandering back and forth all over the road - what a stupid idea. But, of course, those of us who came of age drooling over the great 60s classics have learned to expect less and less.
I was disappointed, too, when I heard that the TC was going to rack & pinion... that is for European cars, not U.S. luxury cars!
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Old 04-02-2011, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I was disappointed, too, when I heard that the TC was going to rack & pinion... that is for European cars, not U.S. luxury cars!
Guess they're just trying to keep up with the joneses!

The LS430 uses a rack and pinion and it definitely leans more towards the American Barca-lounger yacht in terms of cruising smoothness, but especially with the air suspension, gets taut when you hit the twisties.
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:11 PM
 
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I was disappointed, too, when I heard that the TC was going to rack & pinion... that is for European cars, not U.S. luxury cars!
Precisely. European cars and Ford Pintos.
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:42 PM
 
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Guess they're just trying to keep up with the joneses!
Sometimes, it is not for the best.

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The LS430 uses a rack and pinion and it definitely leans more towards the American Barca-lounger yacht in terms of cruising smoothness, but especially with the air suspension, gets taut when you hit the twisties.
An LS430 may lean more towards cruising smoothness but it won't have the boulevard ride that '70s (and older) Cadillacs and Lincolns were famous for. Nor the soft and plush seats.
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:48 PM
 
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The Chevy Impala made it into the Top Ten for softest ride. I rented a 2010 for 2 weeks and it was quiet with plush seats.
The only fault I had with it is the floor mounted shifter. Put it on the steering column and give me more leg room.
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