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04-02-2011, 03:53 PM
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Location: SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Fleet
The TC is several hundred pounds heavier than the Crown Vic. I don't know if that would make that much of a difference, though.
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Yeah - that's gotta be a big part of it. I was truly amazed the first time I rode in it as it is a whole different feel that screams luxury.
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04-02-2011, 04:06 PM
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Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95
Yeah - that's gotta be a big part of it. I was truly amazed the first time I rode in it as it is a whole different feel that screams luxury.
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I should rent a 2005-2011 TC just to compare it with my '95. One of my friends rented a TC a few years ago; don't know the exact year of the car, probably about 2007 or 2008, and he said it was a great freeway-driving car (he drove it from West Hills in the San Fernando Valley up to Bakersfield).
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04-02-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Fleet
I should rent a 2005-2011 TC just to compare it with my '95. One of my friends rented a TC a few years ago; don't know the exact year of the car, probably about 2007 or 2008, and he said it was a great freeway-driving car (he drove it from West Hills in the San Fernando Valley up to Bakersfield).
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That would be an interesting comparison. Crown Vics went to rack and pinion steering in 2003, I believe, so I'm sure Town Cars did as well. And, from the reports I've read, it ruined the stable tracking quality. I'll bet your '95 would be far superior.
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04-02-2011, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95
That would be an interesting comparison. Crown Vics went to rack and pinion steering in 2003, I believe, so I'm sure Town Cars did as well. And, from the reports I've read, it ruined the stable tracking quality. I'll bet your '95 would be far superior.
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Could be. My '95 does track very well.
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04-02-2011, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fleet
Could be. My '95 does track very well.
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Did a little searching and confirmed that, yes, the Town Car's steering was ruined at the same time.
2003 Lincoln Town Car - Road Test & First Look - Motor Trend
Rack and pinion steering is known for wandering back and forth all over the road - what a stupid idea. But, of course, those of us who came of age drooling over the great 60s classics have learned to expect less and less.
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04-02-2011, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95
Did a little searching and confirmed that, yes, the Town Car's steering was ruined at the same time.
2003 Lincoln Town Car - Road Test & First Look - Motor Trend
Rack and pinion steering is known for wandering back and forth all over the road - what a stupid idea. But, of course, those of us who came of age drooling over the great 60s classics have learned to expect less and less.
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I was disappointed, too, when I heard that the TC was going to rack & pinion... that is for European cars, not U.S. luxury cars!
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04-02-2011, 06:36 PM
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Location: Beverly Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by Fleet
I was disappointed, too, when I heard that the TC was going to rack & pinion... that is for European cars, not U.S. luxury cars!
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Guess they're just trying to keep up with the joneses!
The LS430 uses a rack and pinion and it definitely leans more towards the American Barca-lounger yacht in terms of cruising smoothness, but especially with the air suspension, gets taut when you hit the twisties.
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04-02-2011, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fleet
I was disappointed, too, when I heard that the TC was going to rack & pinion... that is for European cars, not U.S. luxury cars!
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Precisely. European cars and Ford Pintos. 
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04-02-2011, 08:42 PM
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Guess they're just trying to keep up with the joneses!
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Sometimes, it is not for the best.
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The LS430 uses a rack and pinion and it definitely leans more towards the American Barca-lounger yacht in terms of cruising smoothness, but especially with the air suspension, gets taut when you hit the twisties.
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An LS430 may lean more towards cruising smoothness but it won't have the boulevard ride that '70s (and older) Cadillacs and Lincolns were famous for. Nor the soft and plush seats.
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04-02-2011, 09:48 PM
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The Chevy Impala made it into the Top Ten for softest ride. I rented a 2010 for 2 weeks and it was quiet with plush seats.
The only fault I had with it is the floor mounted shifter. Put it on the steering column and give me more leg room.
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