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Old 04-04-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Don't need a lot of ugly plastic to do that.

Older cars used hood insulation...


They still do use insulation under the hood, as well. That's why most new cars are quieter than most older cars.
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, La
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Pain in the ass? It takes like 30 seconds to get all of it off. 10 seconds on my car: 4 pushbottons on the top and it lifts right up. The VW TDi I worked on this weekend took 2 10mm bolts, but still only about 30 seconds to get off.

It's really not that hard to get off, and needs to be easy so the techs in the dealership don't spend much time on it for warranty work.
not just that though. the way todays engines are squeezed into the bay. My Ford fusion is an excellent car but Im sure as hell not going to try to fix it if something goes wrong. Its transverse in the bay and the plugs and wires back there are nearly impossible to reach.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Most older engine bays looked like crap, hoses and wires protruding from everywhere.
Even this one?

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Old 04-05-2011, 12:43 AM
 
Location: Eastern Missouri
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Deez Nuttz, I see nothing wrong with that engine bay! Wish new cars had an engine bay worth looking at like that!
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Old 04-05-2011, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Deez Nuttz, I see nothing wrong with that engine bay! Wish new cars had an engine bay worth looking at like that!
I agree. Look, you can actually see not only the engine but the spark plugs!
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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not just that though. the way todays engines are squeezed into the bay. My Ford fusion is an excellent car but Im sure as hell not going to try to fix it if something goes wrong. Its transverse in the bay and the plugs and wires back there are nearly impossible to reach.
Yeah, FWD V6 cars are like that. But that's got nothing to do with the covers, and usually the kinds of cars that are not owned by enthusiasts. (My SVT Contour and a vew of the VR6 VWs and Alfas are exceptions) As was shown, my BMW is easy to get to stuff, the S2k is easy, most FWD 4 cyl cars, etc. Once you remove the covers, even the luxury cars are pretty easy to get to everything.

The covers are not the PITA part, as they are easy to take off, and since we are TALKING about the covers, how hard it is to work on your FWD V6 car AFTER the covers are OFF really is a moot point.
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Even this one?

He did say "most" not ALL. But hey, why don't you move up to the '70s and the early '80s and the emissions control era where they band-aided the engines with 47 million vacuum hoses laid all over with no rhyme or reason? Hmm?



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Old 04-05-2011, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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^That looks horrible^

Also, I find it funny some people are using custom hot rods to depict what a "nice engine" should look like if it wasn't for those "silly" covers.

A lot of those old "clean" looking cars don't have a/c, power steering, ABS, cruise or fuel injection. And they certainly won't pass today's emissions.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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^That looks horrible^

Also, I find it funny some people are using custom hot rods to depict what a "nice engine" should look like if it wasn't for those "silly" covers.

A lot of those old "clean" looking cars don't have a/c, power steering, ABS, cruise or fuel injection. And they certainly won't pass today's emissions.
Old cars won't pass emissions? What an incredibly naive view.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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^That looks horrible^

Also, I find it funny some people are using custom hot rods to depict what a "nice engine" should look like if it wasn't for those "silly" covers.
Um, I posted those engines to show what styled engine compartments are like, with covers, doing the same job as modern covers. The Foose stuff I posted was in defence of covers, not as a rebuttal to covers.

Oh, and those Foose engines, especially the silver one, has AC, power steering, cruise, and fuel injection.

They are just under the covers.



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