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Old 04-14-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Containment Area, NC
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Lordstown, Ohio. Thats not good....

Ugh. That is not good.

The Volts are assembled in Flint. I doubt the steering wheels will be coming off any of those anytime soon. I think Chevy put their best people on those assembly lines. Couldn't afford not to.

Still, the Cruze has real potential.... why anyone would wanna screw that up is beyond me.

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Old 04-14-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Containment Area, NC
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Did you side with Toyota when the brake problems came about? Just curious. Some people who are partial to certain makes will defend them but slam others for the same thing.
I didn't "side" with Toyota... I just realized that **** happens.

They got fined, they did a recall... nobody's perfect.

It sucks, and I hope that car companies will figure out new and inventive ways to prevent these things from happening.
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Old 04-14-2011, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Wake Forest
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Like Frank said, Lordstown, OH. It's a shame too. That plant has been through a lot the past 10 years or so and at one point was facing the prospect of being shutdown and at one point was down to a single shift and 1,000 workers. When GM decided to bring the Cruze stateside and build it here, the plant got a new lease on life, a complete re-tooling and 4,500 previously laid off GM workers were brought in from all over the country to work at the plant.

While many deride the auto-bailouts, Lordstown was an example of what it helped accomplish. There are 4,500 more Americans working today in Lordstown, OH because of them and an entire town whose economy depended on that plant is flourishing once again. It would be a damn shame if this screw up hurt demand for the car as they were anticipating needing to add additional shifts and return another 500 laid off GM workers to the lines after the summer maintenance shutdown.

So are you saying American's should be at risk of steering wheels coming off in their hands and any other car failures this vehicle will ultimately have so workers in Ohio can work? Please tell me your not saying that.

Every city is dependent on a factory or other type of employment but if poor quality is the output of such factories they close albeit in Ohio or Kentucky. One wants to feel safe and feel they got value for their purchases. Having the steering wheel come off in ones hand while driving does neither.........
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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So are you saying American's should be at risk of steering wheels coming off in their hands and any other car failures this vehicle will ultimately have so workers in Ohio can work? Please tell me your not saying that.

Every city is dependent on a factory or other type of employment but if poor quality is the output of such factories they close albeit in Ohio or Kentucky. One wants to feel safe and feel they got value for their purchases. Having the steering wheel come off in ones hand while driving does neither.........
I didn't say anything of the sort. I said it was a real shame framed against the backdrop of what had been a huge success story at the Lordstown plant that was on the brink of being shutdown. The production of that car put a lot of Americans back to work.

There is no excuse for what happened and the issues need to resolved. I was simply stating that I hope this doesn't severely damage the reputation of an otherwise good car. To put it into perspective Toyota had a similar issue like this on Rav4's and Tacomas and Honda had them on some Civics.

It's a critical time for GM and it would be a shame to see a car like the Cruze be destroyed over a manufacturing error that only affected 2k or so cars.
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Old 04-14-2011, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Somewhere East of Laramie
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The root cause was determined to be the wrong steering wheel being installed on the car during initial production on the line. The cars that had that happened were sidelined and then workers installed the correct steering wheel by hand.
Different wheels mount differently? I'd think the column and wheel hub would be standardized regardless of the dressing, saves $$$.
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Old 04-14-2011, 06:53 PM
 
Location: United States
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I didn't "side" with Toyota... I just realized that **** happens.

They got fined, they did a recall... nobody's perfect.

It sucks, and I hope that car companies will figure out new and inventive ways to prevent these things from happening.
Me too. As much as a new car costs and as much technology as there is out there you should feel safe when plopping down $20k.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:26 AM
 
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Different wheels mount differently? I'd think the column and wheel hub would be standardized regardless of the dressing, saves $$$.
The wrong steering wheels were installed on the assembly line. My guess would be something like the steering wheel of a LS was put into a LTZ by mistake or vice versa. Since the wheel had/lacked feautres the car was/wasn't supposed to have, they had to change them out. The affected cars were sidelined, the wheels removed and workers hand installed the correct steering wheels. Somewhere along the way someone didn't install the correct steering wheel properly.
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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You should never buy ANY car in its first model year regardless of the make.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I was lazy and didn't read the article but how the hell does a steering wheel just fall off? Have you ever purposefully tried to take off a steering wheel? With out a puller, it's a pain in the a$$.
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Old 04-17-2011, 06:19 AM
 
Location: NH
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I was lazy and didn't read the article but how the hell does a steering wheel just fall off? Have you ever purposefully tried to take off a steering wheel? With out a puller, it's a pain in the a$$.
Apparently it comes off pretty easilly if the wrong one is installed
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