Question about mpg on these old Mopars (muscle car, luxury, 2012)
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especially the ones that are in great condition where they are asking for a lot of $$ and feature new engines, etc, would the mpg's say in an early 70's Chrysler New Yorker/ Monaco/Polara, Fury, etc still be in the range of what Consumer Reports tests showed back in the day, or might they actually be better because of a new engine or replacement parts that may be made with more advanced sophisticated tech?
...especially the ones that are in great condition where they are asking for a lot of $$ and feature new engines, etc, would the mpg's say in an early 70's Chrysler New Yorker/ Monaco/Polara, Fury, etc...
Just in case you weren't clued in before now...
anyone who buys cars like these isn't concerned about mpg.
This is a good thing since 8mpg is gonna be about as good as it gets.
Similar with people who own RV's or big damned power boats.
These are hobbyists and weekenders and retired folks at play.
If you're looking to buy a fast car and then rack up enough miles on it that how much gas you burn really matters...
you probably shouldn't buy one at all.
it really depends on what engine/drive train combination you get. for instance i had a 71 fury lll with the 318 that would get about 18 on the freeway and around 13 in town. the ones with the larger engines would do worse.
i'm not going to buy one. i'm thinking of a Toyota Solara, Dodge Challenger (tho i want it to be more like a personal luxury coupe, i don't like the wheel covers) to me it's a fat retro car and a fat retro car should have conservative wheel covers (at least in my opinion)
thinking of the VW bug or maybe that small Toyota someone mentioned a few days ago
get a base V6 Challenger and swap out thr rims to something you like...
I like the looks of the Challenger 5.7 liter Hemi R/T classic...With the american Racing rims over the 6.4 liter SRT8 vesrion
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or might they actually be better because of a new engine or replacement parts that may be made with more advanced sophisticated tech?
Ideally, one could add Electronic ignition (computerised timing / spark control) and computerized fuel injection (the good and helpful part of technology) and throw away the emission garbage (a well maintained and tuned engine will not dramatically contribute to pollution issues.... not like sitting at stoplights / drive-up windows, traffic....). Unfortunately you will need to be a geek, as the std computer based tuning NEEDS all that emission junk to accurately monitor performance.
My old Mopar muscle cars got 10-18 mpg, in spite of LOTS of 'jack-rabbit-starts' (My current StealthRabbit gets (1) mpg per (1) hp !!
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thinking of the VW bug
As in an OLD BEETLE?? (not a NB ... New Beetle)... the oldies ARE NOT economical... ~18-25MPG. They make GREAT toads (cars to tow behind Motorhome). There is a SIMPLE quick attach towbar, still available.
I saw an old beetle run a 12.2 second qtr mile @ 106 MPH today... I don't think it was 'stock'....
I vote to go for the early stuff, drive less, rent a car on priceline if you need to take a road trip (I often get them for under $15/day, unlimited mileage).
Use your $25k extra capital to invest in a good cash flowing opportunity.
Really depends. Todays carbs are light years ahead of the stuff we had back then. We've also realized that it doesn't take a pair of 650's to make 500HP like some believed back then. A single 750 will make the same power and get better mileage.
If the car was rebuilt with factory stock parts then the mileage should be almost exactly the same. If they have done mods like exhaust, headers, newer carb better ignition then mileage could increase substantially. Adding one of the new aftermarket EFI systems will also make a huge difference.
My old 402 BBC Monte got around 10 mpg when I got it. Carb was rough and gummed up, stock manifolds, stock exhaust, stock point etc. I cleaned the factor carb, swapped headers, put in an HEI dist with a 6A box and coil and some new plugs and wires. The car now gets just a touch over 15mpg. Not bad for 4000lbs of 40 yr old steel.
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