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Old 11-13-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Do you see any correlation between those techs that can't pass the tests and their abilities/productivity in the shop? Is it possible that these guys aren't all that good? or are they simply incapable of taking tests?

Do you see any correlation between those techs that do pass the tests and their shop performance and income? Are these they guys that are always curious, always learning, always excited about new information/skills and putting that to work?

Good techs ... with or without those certificates ... are hard to find.

Short answer: Yes.

The techs without their a.s.e certification are extremely lazy and don't enjoy reading at all.

The techs with their a.s.e certification enjoy reading, learning and are extremely hardworking.


The techs without the a.s.e certification are reckless, (speeding tickets, modding cars etc. etc.) and non chalant about responsibilities.
Some of them are not too serious about their job either.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:28 PM
 
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Short answer: Yes.

The techs without their a.s.e certification are extremely lazy and don't enjoy reading at all.

The techs with their a.s.e certification enjoy reading, learning and are extremely hardworking.


The techs without the a.s.e certification are reckless, (speeding tickets, modding cars etc. etc.) and non chalant about responsibilities.
Some of them are not too serious about their job either.
So now you've answered the original question as to the perceived value of getting those ASE cert's in your portfolio of accomplishments.

I infer that you'd rather not be in the group that are "extremely lazy and don't enjoy reading at all" .... and that ASE credential apparently puts you into the group that are "learning and are extremely hardworking". If you can observe this distinction, so can your employer.

Go get those certificates. You can start studying now so as to be prepared to take the tests as soon as possible.
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Old 11-13-2011, 07:51 PM
 
Location: North Pole Alaska
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I pay for my techs (three of them) to take the tests the first time. The re-certs are on them and most of them choose not to take the re-cert as they know that the tests are bs and have almost nothing to do with the day to day operations in a maintenance bay.

With that being said I do send them to seminars for up and coming technology such as hybrid vehicle, and electric vehicle. We find them to be much more useful than the ASE testing and prefer to spend money on those types of classes.
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:20 AM
 
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So now you've answered the original question as to the perceived value of getting those ASE cert's in your portfolio of accomplishments.

I infer that you'd rather not be in the group that are "extremely lazy and don't enjoy reading at all" .... and that ASE credential apparently puts you into the group that are "learning and are extremely hardworking". If you can observe this distinction, so can your employer.

Go get those certificates. You can start studying now so as to be prepared to take the tests as soon as possible.
will do
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:07 PM
 
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I am not even a mechanic, but I've always been partially interested in the work. Just like in the professional world though, you have the majority of complainers, whiners, and grumpus pant babies. If it is so easy, go and get your certification, Bachelors degree, Masters, PhD, whatever, go get it, if it's so easy. If you get it, you will get paid more, point blank period, and, more than likely by that time, you WILL feel different. If you do not go and get these things, then ****, that was you're own prerogative, be happy you have a job, and work at being the best at it as you can be, you're a lot more easily replaceable than YOU think. I absolutely hate hearing the constant complaints of "but but but, he's not as good with his certification, and I am better", or, "it's bs that he gets paid more than I do just because he has a Bachelors", or just "wwwwwaaaaaaaa". Always trying to spin it in your own favor. It's simple you know what to do if you want to be paid more, and you either do it, or don't, and if you don't, maybe that is the one area..........where you are not so bright. From a purely business standpoint, it makes sense to me. I only have to pay the very small percentage of degreed more (27% of ALL U.S. citizens, of ALL ages, of ALL races, of ALL genders, of ALL majors has at least a Bachelors, 10% a Masters, 1% a PhD (Census)). Plus, because of that small percentage, it says volumes, whether or not it does to you. Good for marketing to. More people probably have an Associates (2yr) or certifications compared to the other degrees, but, probably less than you would think. So, from a business standpoint..........it makes sense to me, and if it doesn't make sense to you, I think you're the average idiot. Have it, more pay, or don't and have less, it's always been your choice. Oh, but try and stay out of debt to, because even after you go through all of these things............if you have debt, then whatever higher pay you are making is cut in half, probably for years, until the debt is fully paid off. By that time, hopefully it was worth it, but for a lot of indebted educated, certified people...........it's not, unless their debts are more of a minimum.

Just sayin
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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^^ Ummmmmmmm... Thank you?
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:43 PM
 
Location: North Port
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I know with most dealerships they care more about there training and there certifications then an ASE cert. I think ASE looks good for the independent shop techs, but I know with Dodge, if you has a master ASE tech, or a leveled Dodge tech, wether level 1 which is entry level, or a level 4, there version of master tech, I think the Dodge tech gets hired first everytime.
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Old 01-22-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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In my opinion NO.

ASE is great but at the same time just about anyone can pass these tests and many people can find the answers to the questions on-line.

I was in automotive repair for 35 years and I would always hire someone that had hands on experience rather than a patch on their shirt.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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Just curious do you work at harte?
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:17 AM
 
Location: UpstateNY
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From our experience it helped in getting hired in a new city but did not contribute to better advancment or pay, BUT bear in mind this is a small town. Garage owners are greedy and not loyal to their employees. It soon became obvious it was a waste of money and time. Of course, it did help that he was one of the top techs in the area.

In a bigger city with more competition it may give you an edge over someone who didn't take them.
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