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Old 11-26-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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That's only one Hybrid.

Your use of induction can also imply that all conventional cars will kill you because their brakes will fail, citing Toyota Camry as an example.

And the Article compared just a couple models of hybrids (Proportionately) to everything that is out there... including 50+ year old vehicles.

Also, it simply said they were safer b/c they were heavier.

So if we throw some sacks of cement in the trunk (Or drive a larger vehicle) we equal it out.

Hardly worth writing about (More mass= less effect to you) to anyone who understands basic physics!
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Old 11-26-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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And the Article compared just a couple models of hybrids (Proportionately) to everything that is out there... including 50+ year old vehicles.

Also, it simply said they were safer b/c they were heavier.

So if we throw some sacks of cement in the trunk (Or drive a larger vehicle) we equal it out.

Hardly worth writing about (More mass= less effect to you) to anyone who understands basic physics!
Correct. I was referring to the flaw in that poster's methodology of suggesting that hybrids are a fire hazard across the board.

Although, I think it's worth writing about. You would be surprised how few people understand basic physics.
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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the fires are related to lithium ion vehicles.Hardly worth writing about , cept to the trial lawyers.lol
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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Correct. I was referring to the flaw in that poster's methodology of suggesting that hybrids are a fire hazard across the board.

Although, I think it's worth writing about. You would be surprised how few people understand basic physics.

I doubt it's all of them, although last year a firefighter friend of mine told me about how (Atleast some models, I forget which) were killing firefighters and occupants when the 'jaws of life' were used due to the placement of one of the power cables. (Some letter went out)

I doubt it was/is all models.
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Old 11-26-2011, 02:55 PM
 
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You A) didn't read the study; B) Know nothing about cars (or at least hybrid cars).
Don't pretend.
Hybrids are heavier than their conventional counterparts.
Toyota Prius, curb weight US 3042 lbs

Best selling vehicle in the USA- Ford F150 Supercrew, curb weight 5128 lbs

The Prius wouldn't stand a chance against the F150. Maybe a Schwinn but not any of the top selling vehicles. Even a Tacoma 4 door in 2x2 is 4000lbs. So much for yer opinion.
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: The Circle City. Sometimes NE of Bagdad.
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Toyota Prius, curb weight US 3042 lbs

Best selling vehicle in the USA- Ford F150 Supercrew, curb weight 5128 lbs

The Prius wouldn't stand a chance against the F150. Maybe a Schwinn but not any of the top selling vehicles. Even a Tacoma 4 door in 2x2 is 4000lbs. So much for yer opinion.
How are those conventional counterparts?
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Old 11-26-2011, 03:18 PM
 
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Toyota Prius, curb weight US 3042 lbs

Best selling vehicle in the USA- Ford F150 Supercrew, curb weight 5128 lbs

The Prius wouldn't stand a chance against the F150. Maybe a Schwinn but not any of the top selling vehicles. Even a Tacoma 4 door in 2x2 is 4000lbs. So much for yer opinion.
This is the most ridiculous comparison ever. You're comparing a small sedan to a pickup truck.

You have to compare similar class vehicles.

Chevy Silverado (~1500 payload): Curb Weight: 4460 lbs
Chevy Silverado Hybrid (~1500 payload): Curb Weight: 5573 lbs

Toyota Camry: 3240 lbs
Toyota Camry Hybrid: 3417 lbs

If you think that an Ford F150 is a conventional counterpart to a Toyota Prius, you really don't belong in this discussion.

P.S. The Cadillac Escalade Hybrid goes above 6 tons.
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Old 11-26-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Northern MN
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Yet you can still buy and ride a motorcycle with out a helmet or seat-belts.

Why would a INC Co recommend the MFG to build a cheaper car?
I can see safe but safe also means different things.

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I would have thought that Insurance Companies would have interest in minimizing their exposure. So it makes sense for them to do two things. Recommend cheaper cars, and recommend cars that keep passengers safer.
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Old 11-26-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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Yet you can still buy and ride a motorcycle with out a helmet or seat-belts.

Why would a INC Co recommend the MFG to build a cheaper car?
I can see safe but safe also means different things.
Recommend to the consumer to purchase cheaper and safer cars. So insurance companies have to pay out less.
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Old 11-26-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Northern MN
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for the car. I got ya.
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