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02-04-2012, 10:57 AM
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No Drivers license?  interesting concept jt, getting drivers licenses certainly dont do much to improve peoples driving skills as i see people doing the most outrageous things while driving but the license industry certainly does make a lot of money continuing to require us to get a license and update it every year or two at a cost.
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02-04-2012, 10:59 AM
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Location: Michigan
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I honestly don't know how anyone could fail the written portion... it only requires about 25% of common sense in your head. A lot of people fail the driving portion, I wouldn't worry about it, it's not like anyone cares.
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02-04-2012, 11:28 AM
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Location: Victoria TX
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Originally Posted by burgler09
I honestly don't know how anyone could fail the written portion... it only requires about 25% of common sense in your head. .
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When I worked as a recruiter for the census bureau, I thought the test was so easy, the only way anybody could get an answer wrong was by carelessness. It's amazing how many applicants got scores of 10 or 15%. There is absolutely no reason to assume that a person cannot do something as simple as drive a car, based on their ability to score on a written test. The two skill sets are completely unrelated in any way. I've worked with people who could take a car apart and put it back together, but couldn't fill out their time sheet.
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02-04-2012, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jtur88
Drivers licenses probably shouldn't even be required.
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Do you, by any chance, reside in Ron Paul's Congressional District?

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02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jambo101
So after a year of driving school my daughter flunks out on her first attempt.
She needed a score of 75 on the test and she got a 70 due to not checking her blind spots intensively enough according to the tester,my daughter said she did check the blind spots but it was a 4 way stop sign on a 2 lane road she said i didnt think cars would be passing me on the right through a stop sign using peoples lawns or the sidewalk or the bike path so i only gave a quick over the shoulder look to the right...
her other transgression was turning a corner too wide which she said she had to do because of the snow piles on the corner.
Naturally she was in tears at getting so obviously screwed out of her license after working hard and taking her driving responsibility very seriously.The tester woman disappeared very quickly back into the office as she knew i knew that she'd just screwed my daughter and we were about to get into an argument.
Speaking with 2 other people in the gymn the next day it appears they both had the same problem with the same woman so it seems this tester just flunks every one. Hope her kids get some one just like her when it comes time for them to try for their license.. 
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sounds like your daughter got someone similar to the one my dad got when he took his first driving test. he was failed because he couldnt parallel park where the tester wanted him to, only because the opening was half the length of the car he was driving at the time. my dad passed the second time he took his test. that is in the 50s when that happened.
as for me, i passed my drivers test first try with flying colors, but then my dad was harder on me than the tester was.
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02-04-2012, 05:31 PM
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I'm liking my state's rules. We were required to put my kid through a professional driving school. Then she has to pass the written test. After that, I was required to take her driving for 60 hours and had to log them. They had to drive in certain required situations during those 60 hours. If those situations were not logged then she would have to do them before the next step. After, IIRC, 3 months of that, she got tested. She did near perfect. She drives pretty well, for a now 17 year old. Not perfect, but better than she would have been, IMO, without those requirements. My other two are looking forward to their turn.
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02-04-2012, 06:43 PM
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Location: Minnesota, USA
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One should not have to take a test to obtain a driver's license. You should simply have to pay for it (or not, depending on your parent's income), not take any examination, much less behind the wheel. Freedom of transport is a human right, and because of our city design in the U.S. (and Canada), this often means absolutely needing a car. Prejudice based on psychomotor reaction time and spatial judgment - which is what behind-the-wheel driving examinations are - is simply not acceptable, and not the discriminating basis for a right guaranteed to all men, women, and transpeople.
I suggest that you give the keys to your daughter and let her drive in an act of civil disobedience.
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02-04-2012, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tvdxer
One should not have to take a test to obtain a driver's license. You should simply have to pay for it (or not, depending on your parent's income), not take any examination, much less behind the wheel. Freedom of transport is a human right, and because of our city design in the U.S. (and Canada), this often means absolutely needing a car. Prejudice based on psychomotor reaction time and spatial judgment - which is what behind-the-wheel driving examinations are - is simply not acceptable, and not the discriminating basis for a right guaranteed to all men, women, and transpeople.
I suggest that you give the keys to your daughter and let her drive in an act of civil disobedience.
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Heck, why even require training and licensure for truck & bus drivers. And, of course, I should be allowed to haul anything I want in my trailer; hazardous materiials included.
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02-04-2012, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Crew Chief
Heck, why even require training and licensure for truck & bus drivers. And, of course, I should be allowed to haul anything I want in my trailer; hazardous materiials included.
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Theres a difference between performing a professional service for hire on a commercial basis, and moving about from place to place for your own purposes in a manner that everyone can learn to do quickly and easily. Which is why licensure is required for the practice of medicine, law, pharmacy, plumbing, electrical contracting, hair dressing, bus driving, etc. but not to do those things for yourself.
Learning to ride a horse is a lot hharder than learning to drive a car, and a horse represents a greater but different hazard to the general public. But it would be clearly unconstitutional to make an Amerian citizen buy a license to ride a horse from place to place, or to drive a horsedrawn wagon containing your own belongings, even it it is hazardous cargo.
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02-05-2012, 08:58 AM
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Location: Twin Lakes /Taconic / Salisbury
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Thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard.. I garauntee you're not as good a driver as you think, and seeing as you can kill another person EASILY with a car there certainly should be some form of test and liciencsing.. The above argument is borderline retarded..
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