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Old 02-13-2012, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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Originally Posted by Everest209 View Post
When Hyundai has enough respect as a brand that they aren't afraid to put their logo on their own high end cars, then we know they've reached the top.
That's an interesting way of looking at things, especially in a thread that compares Hyundai to Honda and Toyota who are also two brands "afraid" (your word) to put their logo on a Lexus or Acura.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:21 AM
 
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[quote=SuperManGuy;22940296]
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Originally Posted by fbbertusa View Post

Yes, it was Car of the Year.

This title, historically, has gone to one of the cars by Honda or Toyota.
Not true at all. In the 19 years of the award, this is how it breaks down by nationality...

Car - 10 Domestics, 4 European, 3 Japanese, 2 Korean

Truck - 12 Domestics, 4 Japanese, 3 European

2012 - Hyundai Elantra / Land Rover Evoque
2011 - Chevy Volt / Ford Explorer
2010 - Ford Fusion Hybrid / Ford Transit Connect Van
2009 - Hyundai Genesis / Ford F150
2008 - Chevy Malibu / Mazda CX-9
2007 - Saturn Aura / Chevy Silverado
2006 - Honda Civic / Honda Ridgeline
2005 - Chrysler 300 / Ford Escape Hybrid
2004 - Toyota Prius / Ford F150
2003 - Mini Cooper / Volvo XC90
2002 - Nissan Altima / Chevy Trailblazer
2001 - Chrysler PT Cruiser / Acura MDX
2000 - Ford Focus / Nissan XTerra
1999 - VW New Beetle / Jeep Grand Cherokee
1998 - Chevy Corvette / Mercedes ML320
1997 - Mercedes SLK / Ford Expedition
1996 - Chrysler Minivan / Ford F150
1995 - Chrysler Cirrus / Chevy Blazer
1994 - Mercedes C-class / Dodge Ram

By brand:

Ford - 9
GM - 7
Chrysler - 6
Honda - 3
Mercedes - 3
Hyundai - 2
Nissan - 2
Land Rover - 1
Mazda - 1
Toyota - 1
Mini - 1
Volvo - 1
VW - 1
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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[quote=NJGOAT;22963117]
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Originally Posted by SuperManGuy View Post

Not true at all. In the 19 years of the award, this is how it breaks down by nationality...

Car - 10 Domestics, 4 European, 3 Japanese, 2 Korean

Truck - 12 Domestics, 4 Japanese, 3 European

2012 - Hyundai Elantra / Land Rover Evoque
2011 - Chevy Volt / Ford Explorer
2010 - Ford Fusion Hybrid / Ford Transit Connect Van
2009 - Hyundai Genesis / Ford F150
2008 - Chevy Malibu / Mazda CX-9
2007 - Saturn Aura / Chevy Silverado
2006 - Honda Civic / Honda Ridgeline
2005 - Chrysler 300 / Ford Escape Hybrid
2004 - Toyota Prius / Ford F150
2003 - Mini Cooper / Volvo XC90
2002 - Nissan Altima / Chevy Trailblazer
2001 - Chrysler PT Cruiser / Acura MDX
2000 - Ford Focus / Nissan XTerra
1999 - VW New Beetle / Jeep Grand Cherokee
1998 - Chevy Corvette / Mercedes ML320
1997 - Mercedes SLK / Ford Expedition
1996 - Chrysler Minivan / Ford F150
1995 - Chrysler Cirrus / Chevy Blazer
1994 - Mercedes C-class / Dodge Ram

By brand:

Ford - 9
GM - 7
Chrysler - 6
Honda - 3
Mercedes - 3
Hyundai - 2
Nissan - 2
Land Rover - 1
Mazda - 1
Toyota - 1
Mini - 1
Volvo - 1
VW - 1
I made no such post or quote and there is another quote the is supposed to be by Me and I did not post it either. I do not know where this came from.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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People sure must be buying up those new Sonatas, I'm starting to see them everywhere.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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I made no such post or quote and there is another quote the is supposed to be by Me and I did not post it either. I do not know where this came from.
I was responding to SuperManGuy who is the one that claimed the award "typically went to Honda or Toyota". Basically he was citing that award as some major accomplishment, so I thought it would be informative to see what the past winners were, which are arguably a mixed bag in terms of great to bad cars.
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:52 PM
 
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Like Toyota puts its name on the Lexus or Nissan puts its name on the Infinity? Lets get real, a Lexus is only a high end Toyota.
Ok, so Acura is a high end Honda, Audi is a high end VW. Stale argument.

The Geneisis and Equus aren't different divisions under Hyundai like Lexus or Infiniti are under Toyota and Nissan. They are part of the Hyundai lineup, if Hyundai had more respect (which it will probably earn eventually) they would put their logo on the higher end cars.
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Old 02-14-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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The new GDI engines are extremely reliable. The power-train is solid, but all of the bells and whistles are pretty crappy. I was considering a Kia Forte or Hyundai Elantra before I started reading horror stories of peoples dashboard coming loose and rattling like crazy after about 20k miles. Combined with quite a few people who had issues with running and interior lights dying in the Forte, which took the Kia techs 3 days on average to find out it was a faulty alternator. A few people claimed they had more than 1 alternator replaced. I also read stories of the 6-speed automatic clutchless manual transmissions engaging and downshifting on their own. The thing that sealed it for me is I joined a Kia forum to get reviews from current owners and all I got was self-gratifying and arrogant statements from Kia/Hyundia fanboys who thought they were hot ****. Either way, I went with a Buick and I'm pretty damn satisfied.
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Old 02-14-2012, 10:46 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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[quote=NJGOAT;22963117]
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Originally Posted by SuperManGuy View Post

Not true at all. In the 19 years of the award, this is how it breaks down by nationality...

Car - 10 Domestics, 4 European, 3 Japanese, 2 Korean

Truck - 12 Domestics, 4 Japanese, 3 European

2012 - Hyundai Elantra / Land Rover Evoque
2011 - Chevy Volt / Ford Explorer
2010 - Ford Fusion Hybrid / Ford Transit Connect Van
2009 - Hyundai Genesis / Ford F150
2008 - Chevy Malibu / Mazda CX-9
2007 - Saturn Aura / Chevy Silverado
2006 - Honda Civic / Honda Ridgeline
2005 - Chrysler 300 / Ford Escape Hybrid
2004 - Toyota Prius / Ford F150
2003 - Mini Cooper / Volvo XC90
2002 - Nissan Altima / Chevy Trailblazer
2001 - Chrysler PT Cruiser / Acura MDX
2000 - Ford Focus / Nissan XTerra
1999 - VW New Beetle / Jeep Grand Cherokee
1998 - Chevy Corvette / Mercedes ML320
1997 - Mercedes SLK / Ford Expedition
1996 - Chrysler Minivan / Ford F150
1995 - Chrysler Cirrus / Chevy Blazer
1994 - Mercedes C-class / Dodge Ram

By brand:

Ford - 9
GM - 7
Chrysler - 6
Honda - 3
Mercedes - 3
Hyundai - 2
Nissan - 2
Land Rover - 1
Mazda - 1
Toyota - 1
Mini - 1
Volvo - 1
VW - 1
New Models and redesigns usually get the car of the year. It has nothing to do with the best.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:32 PM
 
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The new GDI engines are extremely reliable. The power-train is solid, but all of the bells and whistles are pretty crappy. I was considering a Kia Forte or Hyundai Elantra before I started reading horror stories of peoples dashboard coming loose and rattling like crazy after about 20k miles. Combined with quite a few people who had issues with running and interior lights dying in the Forte, which took the Kia techs 3 days on average to find out it was a faulty alternator. A few people claimed they had more than 1 alternator replaced. I also read stories of the 6-speed automatic clutchless manual transmissions engaging and downshifting on their own. The thing that sealed it for me is I joined a Kia forum to get reviews from current owners and all I got was self-gratifying and arrogant statements from Kia/Hyundia fanboys who thought they were hot ****. Either way, I went with a Buick and I'm pretty damn satisfied.
Every company has their lemons. Be it Toyota, Honda or GM or anybody else. People complaining on the internet would not be basis for declaring a brand crappy, unless you did a survey of a group of owners and came to that conclusion. Consumer Report "tries" to do that, but their questions and answers don't reflect what the depth of the problem is.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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[quote=KodeBlue;22988502]
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Originally Posted by NJGOAT View Post

New Models and redesigns usually get the car of the year. It has nothing to do with the best.
Agreed... Look at that chart and you can see which cars were the new hot **** of the time.

I still take "magazine" opinions with a grain of salt as long as I see auto manufacture advertisements on the next page.
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