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Old 04-12-2012, 08:00 AM
 
Location: WNC
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yep pretty much sums up the debate on STi vs Evo.....want a more raw car that is better on the track? Buy an Evo. Want a car that is still fast but is much easier to live with as a DD? Buy the STi.
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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My opinion on the AWD/RWD choice is similar to what others have said in this thread.

If you just want a car that hooks well on the street, get an AWD WRX or similar car. They have enough horsepower and traction to get the jump out of the hole and keep the lead on a similarly powered RWD V8 in most cases, however, if the race goes past a quarter mile your in trouble.

If you are going to be heavily modding your car for speed, get the RWD V8 anyway, even for the street. You can make WAY more horsepower.

If you want a strip car, get a RWD V8. The advantage of the AWD is lost on the strip because you can make a RWD hook well enough to demolish a WRX, and you have way more horsepower potential.
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Old 04-12-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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Give me AWD
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:04 AM
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Location: Birmingham
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yep pretty much sums up the debate on STi vs Evo.....want a more raw car that is better on the track? Buy an Evo. Want a car that is still fast but is much easier to live with as a DD? Buy the STi.
Being a better DD is so subjective I merely think of it as a consolation prize handed out to the STi for getting beaten by the Evo. If you want the better car it's the Evo, hands down. You want to be softer on the road, you can get an MR and/or put on cheaper tires once the Yokos wear out after ~12K mi or just not be a wimp.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: WNC
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Being a better DD is so subjective I merely think of it as a consolation prize handed out to the STi for getting beaten by the Evo. If you want the better car it's the Evo, hands down. You want to be softer on the road, you can get an MR and/or put on cheaper tires once the Yokos wear out after ~12K mi or just not be a wimp.

of course it is subjective to any one individual but the consensus in general(been around the Subaru/Mitsu crowd for nearly 10 years), most people who have owned both will tell you that yes, the Evo is the better performing car, but if they needed to choose one to DD all the time and see limited to zero track time, it would be the STi. And that's not to say that the STi is a terrible track car because it isnt, but it's not as capable as the Evo on the track.
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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yep pretty much sums up the debate on STi vs Evo.....want a more raw car that is better on the track? Buy an Evo. Want a car that is still fast but is much easier to live with as a DD? Buy the STi.
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Being a better DD is so subjective I merely think of it as a consolation prize handed out to the STi for getting beaten by the Evo. If you want the better car it's the Evo, hands down. You want to be softer on the road, you can get an MR and/or put on cheaper tires once the Yokos wear out after ~12K mi or just not be a wimp.
...yet, the STi is actually faster on the track...


Top Gear Mitsubishi Evo vs Subaru Impreza Laps - YouTube
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:39 AM
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of course it is subjective to any one individual but the consensus....
Which is why I said I think. I do not care what you think the "consensus" is. I also provide an alternative to people who haven't had the luxury of owning both cars which is buying an MR (or just swapping over to Billsteins) instead of just assuming that all Evos are hard to live with on a daily basis.

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...yet, the STi is actually faster on the track...
That Sti was faster then that Evo that day with that driver. It is going to take more then one measly youtube video to erase years of dominance that the Evo has had over the STi. But hey, it has better cup holders I guess.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:16 AM
 
Location: WNC
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...yet, the STi is actually faster on the track...


Top Gear Mitsubishi Evo vs Subaru Impreza Laps - YouTube
i know the Stig was driving but IIRC, they were almost identical times, which means any variable could have swayed things. Just for the record, I'm a Subie guy through and through, but the stock for stock, the Evo has always been the better track car.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:21 AM
 
Location: WNC
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Which is why I said I think. I do not care what you think the "consensus" is. I also provide an alternative to people who haven't had the luxury of owning both cars which is buying an MR (or just swapping over to Billsteins) instead of just assuming that all Evos are hard to live with on a daily basis.


which is why I was agreeing with you when I said it is subjective.....that's called being in agreement.

Also, you are taking what I'm saying and going to extremes with it. Nowhere did I say that the Evo was a terrible DD or hard to live with. It's just that the STi is a bit softer which matters to some people who dont care a whole lot about doing track days.
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Old 04-13-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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i know the Stig was driving but IIRC, they were almost identical times, which means any variable could have swayed things. Just for the record, I'm a Subie guy through and through, but the stock for stock, the Evo has always been the better track car.
Why?

I keep hearing people say that, but anytime I actually see a real comparison, they post either close to identical times, or the Subaru is slightly faster, when comparing apples to apples.

It appears to me at least that people favor the EVO because it's initially set up more towards oversteer, which makes people feel like it's going faster and to some might be more fun, but I fail to see how that makes it subjectively better when it's no faster nor more reliable.
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