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Although today's cars are heavier than those of 10-20 years ago, they are not slower. Today's mainstream cars routinely do 0-60 in 8 secs, while that was sports car territory before. The "big cars" of not long ago had 350 V8s with 200 Hp.
I don't know about large and bloopy, but styling has definitely gone downhill for many models and makes. I think most of the cars made today are just ugly, with some notable exceptions of course. Corvettes still look great, but the changes in BMW styling are for me a disappointment. The models they were putting out years ago looked a lot better.
So true. Designers of today's car are really lacking ingenuity, creativity, and style. Looking at today's cars and cars of even 10 yrs ago, it's definitely going in the wrong direction. Their sizes have increased. The actual Civics are almost the size of 10 yr old Accords. Everything has ballooned.
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As for styling goes, it seems like these designers get "inspired" by one car, and then another designer uses the same ideas but changes it up a little, until almost every brand is copying each other. Which might be why a lot of cars resemble each other. Like with LED DRLs (Audi), or making sedans look like coupes (Mercedes CLS).
2.0T Track: 3320lbs (with half tank of gas)
2.0T RSPEC: 3040lbs (with 1/4 tank of gas)
Sorry, you can make up any numbers you want, but I already showed the proof that you are wrong. Get over it. Unless you can show me a link from a respectable source that says your car weighs 3040 pounds, I am not listening. You could have possibly stripped out 250 pounds yourself by extreme vehicle lightening methods, but the thread is about stock vehicle weights, not modified cars. This is my last post to you as I have already proved my point.
It's very strange how a short 4 cylinder car can weigh 3,500lbs if not more even with it's supposedly lightweight components such as suspension parts and the paper thin sheetmetal.
I understand all the safety features and accessories has added a lot of extra weight to cars, but I believe it's also stupid to even think of powering a car of that mass with a tiny 4 banger than can barely move itself out of it's own way. Over time the 4 cylinder will wear prematurely and start to lose HP because of the extra weight stressing the tiny engine out. That's just my belief, and experience over the years of owning 4 cylinders cars.
Modern cars have no cool shapes or angles anymore, they are all too round with a few curves here and there. At least in the 60's and even 70's you had great proportions with different and unique styling among brands. Sure the quality of certain makes were crappy, but at least they had a presence which todays cars do not have. The high rakish roof line and retardedly designed raised C pillars, have given cars a weird look to it. Roofs are also much rounder than in the past which gives....say the Lincoln MKS a god awful freakishly huge tall look. Like it's 8 feet tall, it's completely stupid and unnecessary especially when the rest of the cars proportions are way too short and stubby. (even though the Lincoln Town Car was a blob too, at least it's long length, allowed the car to look less bubbly. So yeah I believe the length of a car does matter in terms of how nice it will look).
That's it "Short and Stubby" is the perfect description of a modern 2012 vehicle on the road now.
my new Yaris weighs 2335, but my old 92 Tercel weighed 1850. my 88 Tercel weighed 1950. I'd bet my new Yaris is actually shorter than the old Tercels. is this extra weight due to safety related stuff that has evolved over the past 20-25 years or was the car purposely made heavier for other reasons?
I don't understand why everything looks like a Twinkie on wheels now. Ten years ago new cars had a lean and mean look to them but now everything looks oversized and pudgy. It's like the standard formula for a new car now is take a car chassis, stick 4000lbs on it and put a econobox car engine in it and see how slow it can go. I don't understand why the automakers can't just make something like the older smaller cars but with maybe a lot more power. I can understand big trucks being big, but a compact car? Come on.
Ha ha!! So true. Believe it or not, I was talking to a CHICK who complained to me about the same thing. She (along with myself) like older cars (i.e, 1993 Cobra, 95 S351R) because each model has it's own character and clearly defined look.
Anyhow, my guess is that the people who designed the cars from the past are either dead, or retired all together from the industry, and so now you have entirely new people designing cars and this is the the way they see it.
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